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Post by os on Aug 8, 2023 22:19:56 GMT
I think the added time situation is absolutely ridiculous, in 2 matches we have played nearly an extra half. By the end of the season you could be talking an extra 10-12 matches?
Tonight nothing warranted +11 mins in that 2nd half. I predict times will be reduced as you go through the season surely?
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Post by kpinwp on Aug 8, 2023 22:28:27 GMT
I think the added time situation is absolutely ridiculous, in 2 matches we have played nearly an extra half. By the end of the season you could be talking an extra 10-12 matches? Tonight nothing warranted +11 mins in that 2nd half. I predict times will be reduced as you go through the season surely? Predict that on the basis of what? I can't see how the league will shift the rules about in a season once it's underway. That would cause all kinds of dissent.
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Post by VCLXI on Aug 8, 2023 22:29:20 GMT
I think added time, as I refer to it not injury time, did reduce further in the men's World Cup last year as players in the end realised that it wasn't going to go away.
It does sound excessive when you say an extra 10 games would be played for that amount of time over the course of the season, but if you think about it the players aren't actually playing in the minutes the game is stopped.
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Post by kpinwp on Aug 8, 2023 22:40:34 GMT
I think added time, as I refer to it not injury time, did reduce further in the men's World Cup last year as players in the end realised that it wasn't going to go away. It does sound excessive when you say an extra 10 games would be played for that amount of time over the course of the season, but if you think about it the players aren't actually playing in the minutes the game is stopped. Exactly. The added time will only get reduced if the players get on with the match, more. Instead of delaying things (and not actually playing). Which is how we've got to where we've got to. It's largely up to the players (and management).
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Post by paz on Aug 9, 2023 0:16:26 GMT
I think added time, as I refer to it not injury time, did reduce further in the men's World Cup last year as players in the end realised that it wasn't going to go away. It does sound excessive when you say an extra 10 games would be played for that amount of time over the course of the season, but if you think about it the players aren't actually playing in the minutes the game is stopped. Exactly. The added time will only get reduced if the players get on with the match, more. Instead of delaying things (and not actually playing). Which is how we've got to where we've got to. It's largely up to the players (and management). There was no time wasting today, a very quick and fluent game. Yet we had a total of 17m injury time.
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Post by kpinwp on Aug 9, 2023 0:56:26 GMT
Exactly. The added time will only get reduced if the players get on with the match, more. Instead of delaying things (and not actually playing). Which is how we've got to where we've got to. It's largely up to the players (and management). There was no time wasting today, a very quick and fluent game. Yet we had a total of 17m injury time. Then the Ref is improvising? Why would they do that? I completely conceed how odd this currently feels. I felt the same about the extra time given for the second half of the Notts Co. match. But that was explained to me in a way that I found at least comprehensible, given the new rules.
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Post by Amber Aleman on Aug 9, 2023 6:31:20 GMT
I anticipate the change being reviewed before this season's out. Many managers (and others) will complain about the additional toll on players, and many match-goers won't be happy about the extended time (particularly for evening games) before they can set off for home. It wouldn't surprise me if there's some sort of revision during the course of the season.
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Post by Del on Aug 9, 2023 7:07:21 GMT
A supporter said to me he won't bother coming along to Tuesday night games if this continues. Last train and all that.
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Post by terrier on Aug 9, 2023 7:50:17 GMT
The scoreboard clock is running slow. I noticed that the fourth official put up the additional time at the end of the first half before the clock was showing 45 minutes.
As a check, I started my stopwatch for the start of the second half. The fourth official put up the board for additional time exactly on the 90th minute according to my stopwatch, yet the scoreboard clock was showing only 89:24, meaning 36 seconds had been “lost”.
Eleven minutes were added, yet the referee blew on 100:36 according to the scoreboard clock.
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Post by davef on Aug 9, 2023 7:52:54 GMT
Andy - they are aware.
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Post by terrier on Aug 9, 2023 7:57:46 GMT
Is this addressed at my post? My name’s not Andy if so!
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Post by Andy K on Aug 9, 2023 8:03:43 GMT
Is this addressed at my post? My name’s not Andy if so! Mine is, and I'm not aware
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Post by davef on Aug 9, 2023 8:07:20 GMT
Sorry, I conflated two posts Yes, Pressec was saying last night that they had noticed the timing wasn't right.
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Post by paz on Aug 9, 2023 8:54:42 GMT
10 extra minutes added on to the second half was ridiculous and over the top in my opinion. Who was wasting time on Saturday ? Is this what the supporters really want. I don't believe so. Just read an article about the Charity Shield game and a lot of supporters are calling all these extra cards and minutes added on as nonsense. Let's wait for when there is real-time wasting and issues in a half, the half could be almost doubled. It will start a culture where fans do not watch the whole game... Another thing. When Sky and other channels have to cover for games going substantively over time, that will be interesting..
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Post by kpinwp on Aug 9, 2023 11:18:06 GMT
Ok, there is clearly some real opposition to the new rules.
But, does anyone remember, in previous seasons, the number of times we have been one down in the second half and cursed the oppostion as they time-wasted a clear 10 or 12 minutes out of the game, only for the Ref. to award a mere 4 minutes of extra time? Because I remember that happening on a regular basis. Which reaction would have been replicated all over the leagues, every Sat and Tues, by many sets of fans.
Back to that?
So, are we saying that more extra time than was previously given is good? But not as much as is now being given? How much would be 'right', then? Something like 6 minutes, despite whatever is actually happening (or not) on the pitch?
And the idea that Refs. can somehow decide the appropriate length of extra time to be played based on public transport timetables is just weird.
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