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Post by halftimet on Dec 22, 2023 17:50:31 GMT
One of the stewards?
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Post by ggl on Dec 22, 2023 18:39:15 GMT
If one has the necessary FA badges why not !😃
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Post by os on Dec 22, 2023 22:00:17 GMT
I guess I’m the only one on here who has experience of appointing a new manager. I don’t care whether the new boss is young and hungry or an older, wise head. We’ve tried both approaches, both have worked and both have failed. I want someone energetic and passionate who is motivated to succeed. A leader who inspires others and knows and understands this level of football. In Bruce we have one of the most experienced chairmen around, he won’t be dazzled by glitter or be seduced by the first candidate who flutters their eyelashes. I have no idea who’s in the frame but I trust our Board to make the right decision. Then we see what happens 🤞 Bruce has been around for a while, but the other members on the board are quite recent. It will be interesting to see the direction they want to take. For me, I have always thought the Cowley's were a great pair, proper football people with the right ethics. Its interesting they turned down Bradford for family reasons. They live in Hampshire, Danny has a daughter I think plays for Chelsea, so location wise Sutton is in the right place? And Danny was at the Palace U21s match last week.
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Post by rokerite on Dec 22, 2023 22:17:17 GMT
I guess I’m the only one on here who has experience of appointing a new manager. I don’t care whether the new boss is young and hungry or an older, wise head. We’ve tried both approaches, both have worked and both have failed. I want someone energetic and passionate who is motivated to succeed. A leader who inspires others and knows and understands this level of football. In Bruce we have one of the most experienced chairmen around, he won’t be dazzled by glitter or be seduced by the first candidate who flutters their eyelashes. I have no idea who’s in the frame but I trust our Board to make the right decision. Then we see what happens 🤞 Bruce has been around for a while, but the other members on the board are quite recent. It will be interesting to see the direction they want to take. For me, I have always thought the Cowley's were a great pair, proper football people with the right ethics. Its interesting they turned down Bradford for family reasons. They live in Hampshire, Danny has a daughter I think plays for Chelsea, so location wise Sutton is in the right place? And Danny was at the Palace U21s match last week. The Cowleys are certainly proper football people. I was astonished when they turned down The Bantams. It looked like the perfect job. But it seems geography and family life prevailed. A year ago I'd have laughed at the idea of the brothers joining Sutton United. But you are eighty minutes away from Portsmouth. eminently commutable. There are very few clubs that are close enough for the Cowleys to be back in their family homes each night. Yes, you are one of the smallest clubs in The EFL. But the American investment means you might just be in a position to attract the Cowleys. A bonus for keeping you in League Two this season could be in their contracts. It probably won't happen but it is coming up to the first anniversary of their sackings from Pompey; and you're easily forgotten in football. We'll see!
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Post by berkshiresutt on Dec 22, 2023 22:32:57 GMT
Just a guess but I expect a lot of our attention tomorrow before the match will be focused on the stand and trying to recognise any potential new manager there 🙈🙈 I have heard, on good authority, that Nigel Clough will be at the ground tomorrow 😜
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Post by davethegrave on Dec 22, 2023 23:19:06 GMT
Just a guess but I expect a lot of our attention tomorrow before the match will be focused on the stand and trying to recognise any potential new manager there 🙈🙈 I have heard, on good authority, that Nigel Clough will be at the ground tomorrow 😜
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Post by boomboom on Dec 23, 2023 11:16:41 GMT
What is all this ‘it’s not the Sutton way’ thing. Yes it’s great that we have a set of values at the club and we would never want to abandon what makes us who we are but it wasn’t ’the Sutton way’ to be a league club for 123 years and that changed didn’t it? Also the thing about ‘we don’t sack managers’ isn’t completely accurate is it? Some Mangers have stood down rather than being sacked of course but in most cases that simply pre-empted the inevitable. We should actually more respect the fact that over many years our Board has dealt with these mattters with integrity and fairness and we have been therefore blessed with Mangers such as Williams, Ron’s,Doswell and Gray amongst a good number of others who have not been as successful I was going to post something similar. Whilst "we don't sack managers" is perhaps literally true, on how many occasions in the past have there been such a long run of abysmal results without a managerial change?
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Post by banjo on Dec 23, 2023 17:11:07 GMT
Out of all the managers I seen, my money is on Mark Bonner, he has worked on a budget at Cambridge, and also knows this level. I’m sure the board will make the right decision so that the fans can get behind the new manager and bring back the good fill factor. ⚽️⚽️
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Post by rokerite on Dec 23, 2023 17:30:18 GMT
Anyone interesting spotted in the directors' box?
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Post by boomboom on Dec 23, 2023 18:54:08 GMT
I'd want a manager with a record of success in the National League, because that's where we will probably be next season. Do we know of any out of work managers who have won the National League? That's increasingly looking like the most sensible post in this thread after today's performance and the weekend's results.
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Post by usus2 on Dec 23, 2023 19:28:28 GMT
Some of our newer directors are specialist sports investment vehicles so I doubt that they are going to willing to simply drop into a league that has no external revenue stream. None of us will know how much bearing these newer members of the board had on recent and indeed future decisions but it’s unlikely they sat on their hands. To that end I wouldn’t be completely surprised if there were more changes in the works. The club is a business with a responsibility to stockholders and investors. Presently it is underperforming which necessitates changes being reviewed and adopted. The only luxury of a football club is that a core of your customers will always be your customers no matter what league you play in.
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Post by os on Dec 23, 2023 19:53:25 GMT
Some of our newer directors are specialist sports investment vehicles so I doubt that they are going to willing to simply drop into a league that has no external revenue stream. None of us will know how much bearing these newer members of the board had on recent and indeed future decisions but it’s unlikely they sat on their hands. To that end I wouldn’t be completely surprised if there were more changes in the works. The club is a business with a responsibility to stockholders and investors. Presently it is underperforming which necessitates changes being reviewed and adopted. The only luxury of a football club is that a core of your customers will always be your customers no matter what league you play in. I think you are absolutely correct, I have been saying throughout this is a relatively new board. The decisions they have made (and their money) have culminated in where we are now. Before the usual suspects jump on that statement as a negative one, its not, without their input we would not now be in the EFL to complain about being bottom of it. However putting us here means that a quick whip round and a raffle isn't going to fix the issues at this level. As you have said these are business investors presumably looking for some form of return on their money, and that is going to be curtailed if we get relegated. I think people can forget our 123 year history, this is something new, and we are going to see how this new regime see the future of our club.
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Post by garethl on Dec 23, 2023 20:01:18 GMT
Some of our newer directors are specialist sports investment vehicles so I doubt that they are going to willing to simply drop into a league that has no external revenue stream. None of us will know how much bearing these newer members of the board had on recent and indeed future decisions but it’s unlikely they sat on their hands. To that end I wouldn’t be completely surprised if there were more changes in the works. The club is a business with a responsibility to stockholders and investors. Presently it is underperforming which necessitates changes being reviewed and adopted. The only luxury of a football club is that a core of your customers will always be your customers no matter what league you play in. I think you are absolutely correct, I have been saying throughout this is a relatively new board. The decisions they have made (and their money) have culminated in where we are now. Before the usual suspects jump on that statement as a negative one, its not, without their input we would not now be in the EFL to complain about being bottom of it. However putting us here means that a quick whip round and a raffle isn't going to fix the issues at this level. As you have said these are business investors presumably looking for some form of return on their money, and that is going to be curtailed if we get relegated. I think people can forget our 123 year history, this is something new, and we are going to see how this new regime see the future of our club. Why do you keep talking about return on investment? Nobody gets return on investment at this level. It just doesn’t happen. Unless you are talking about the return being the pleasure of seeing their hard earned producing football results and progress?!
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Post by os on Dec 23, 2023 20:10:29 GMT
I think you are absolutely correct, I have been saying throughout this is a relatively new board. The decisions they have made (and their money) have culminated in where we are now. Before the usual suspects jump on that statement as a negative one, its not, without their input we would not now be in the EFL to complain about being bottom of it. However putting us here means that a quick whip round and a raffle isn't going to fix the issues at this level. As you have said these are business investors presumably looking for some form of return on their money, and that is going to be curtailed if we get relegated. I think people can forget our 123 year history, this is something new, and we are going to see how this new regime see the future of our club. Why do you keep talking about return on investment? Nobody gets return on investment at this level. It just doesn’t happen. Unless you are talking about the return being the pleasure of seeing their hard earned producing football results and progress?! The return on investment doesn't have to mean money, the Saudis are not involved in football for money.
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Post by usus2 on Dec 24, 2023 23:02:31 GMT
The invest for the fun or some sort of vanity project might be ok if you’re an English businessman with a lifelong attachment to the club/area but the brokers pushing investment in lower league football here are certainly not presenting it as that. Some are certainly asset plays with grounds/land/training pitches etc that can be carved up which fortunately is not the case with SUFC.
If we were to win the lottery no doubt we would write out a substantial cheque but we were fans first and became investors by good fortune. On the other hand, if my job is to invest money, either in real estate or sports management, it might be part of my job to look for a return and somehow, I doubt Saturday morning iFollow is really what I’d be looking for
If they just wanted to give money with no sale nor return, why go on the board at all?
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