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Post by andycapp on Mar 13, 2024 10:43:46 GMT
I already have my season ticket for next season. Didn’t know they were on sale?
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Post by Kebab Belly Bob on Mar 13, 2024 11:10:16 GMT
He bought the five year version advertised three seasons ago.
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Post by brian54 on Mar 13, 2024 11:46:39 GMT
4 years next season is last one.
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Post by garethl on Mar 13, 2024 12:43:22 GMT
Don’t really understand the doom and gloom on next season at this stage. Even in the EFL you can see wild swings in league position year on year, if we had stayed up no reason why we couldn’t have done ok next season. National League may be a tough season or we may do well, will depend on the side put together and to an extent luck. I’d be surprised if we’re not competitive. We’re actually competitive this season but not quite good enough to edge close games.
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Post by cheshire on Mar 13, 2024 13:07:10 GMT
Amongst all the doom and gloom of our situation, it is only fair to acknowledge that the stewards at Gresty Rd last night were friendly and where was the last place we visited where the home club (or its sponsor) offered all the away fans a complimentary hot drink! A very nice touch.
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Post by kpinwp on Mar 13, 2024 13:17:36 GMT
Don’t really understand the doom and gloom on next season at this stage. Even in the EFL you can see wild swings in league position year on year, if we had stayed up no reason why we couldn’t have done ok next season. National League may be a tough season or we may do well, will depend on the side put together and to an extent luck. I’d be surprised if we’re not competitive. We’re actually competitive this season but not quite good enough to edge close games. Hard agree on that. Also, I'm not sure this 'I'm a more loyal fan that you are' stuff is helping. Which if not explicit in some posts is very much there as subtext. Still, we are all hurting at the moment and that manifests in many ways, so I suppose some tension should be expected.
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Post by garethl on Mar 13, 2024 13:31:31 GMT
Don’t really understand the doom and gloom on next season at this stage. Even in the EFL you can see wild swings in league position year on year, if we had stayed up no reason why we couldn’t have done ok next season. National League may be a tough season or we may do well, will depend on the side put together and to an extent luck. I’d be surprised if we’re not competitive. We’re actually competitive this season but not quite good enough to edge close games. Hard agree on that. Also, I'm not sure this 'I'm a more loyal fan that you are' stuff is helping. Which if not explicit in some posts is very much there as subtext. Still, we are all hurting at the moment and that manifests in many ways, so I suppose some tension should be expected. Agreed but make no mistake the worst thing anyone can do for the club is to stop watching. The more fans we hang onto next season the better for our ongoing aspirations and future. Hopefully anyone thinking that way will feel better about things post a summer’s break and hopefully some positive results! The good times will return!!
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Post by Andy K on Mar 13, 2024 13:38:17 GMT
Don’t really understand the doom and gloom on next season at this stage. Even in the EFL you can see wild swings in league position year on year, if we had stayed up no reason why we couldn’t have done ok next season. National League may be a tough season or we may do well, will depend on the side put together and to an extent luck. I’d be surprised if we’re not competitive. We’re actually competitive this season but not quite good enough to edge close games. Hard agree on that. Also, I'm not sure this 'I'm a more loyal fan that you are' stuff is helping. Which if not explicit in some posts is very much there as subtext. Still, we are all hurting at the moment and that manifests in many ways, so I suppose some tension should be expected. Except it isn't. Not from my point of view. I totally understand that not everyone can go to every game, some can only make home games due to finances or other commitments. That's immaterial in terms of being "more loyal". Managing to get to a few games a season due to such circumstances doesn't make someone less loyal - Jared is a perfect example of this as someone who lives 200 miles from GGL and making such a trip costs them over £100 (as it did for him aginst Grimsby). There's no question whatsoever of his loyalty for the club because he didn't get to Crewe on what was the 30th anniversary of his first ever Sutton game. Saying in a pretty direct way "I'm not going to buy a season ticket only on the basis we're not doing well" tell us more about the person making such statements than anyone else can really articulate.
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Post by Andy K on Mar 13, 2024 13:39:41 GMT
So you only go when we're doing well. Thanks for confirming. Um, sure. Funny, I seem to remember us being a midtable isthmian side for the years in the mid 90s when I went to almost every game home and away. Not to mention another maybe 15 seasons where sutton didn't win anything and I went to majority home games and as many as I could away. If you're looking for a glory supporter to chastise, you're looking in the wrong place. Sure, there are plenty of supporters who've been to way more games than me but sutton are my only team, and have been since 93/94. Most of the times I've missed have been due to working Saturdays or playing football myself. Look around the ground next season when we're back to 1800 attending and at least you know why one of those missing thousand odd isn't there for a while. And its because they need a break from misery and frustration, rather than going back to supporting Chelsea full time like most the rest. Best you read my latest reply then and see what category you currently sit in. I'll let you decide that one.
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Post by kpinwp on Mar 13, 2024 13:54:04 GMT
Hard agree on that. Also, I'm not sure this 'I'm a more loyal fan that you are' stuff is helping. Which if not explicit in some posts is very much there as subtext. Still, we are all hurting at the moment and that manifests in many ways, so I suppose some tension should be expected. Except it isn't. Not from my point of view. I totally understand that not everyone can go to every game, some can only make home games due to finances or other commitments. That's immaterial in terms of being "more loyal". Managing to get to a few games a season due to such circumstances doesn't make someone less loyal - Jared is a perfect example of this as someone who lives 200 miles from GGL and making such a trip costs them over £100 (as it did for him aginst Grimsby). There's no question whatsoever of his loyalty for the club because he didn't get to Crewe on what was the 30th anniversary of his first ever Sutton game. Saying in a pretty direct way "I'm not going to buy a season ticket only on the basis we're not doing well" tell us more about the person making such statements than anyone else can really articulate. Yes, I take your points. But the latter one is quite an absolute view point. There is a lot of disappointment and it's become harder as the season has progressed to hold a properly supportive line. The guy I mostly attend home matches with hasn't seen us win once all season. And I have definitely not attended two home matches that I could have simply because I 'knew' we'd screw up (we did) and I 'couldn't face it'. It's been our worst season since '08. In some ways worse, as we may not achieve EL status again. Morale sapping. So, I'm just trying to cut a bit of slack.
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Post by markf on Mar 13, 2024 14:11:04 GMT
As much as this season has disappointed comparing it with 2007/8 is harsh. We need to remember what level the club is playing at.
I will be reviewing that season in an upcoming programme so it may jog a few memories.
As for people not turning up because they just can't bear what's happening, blimey.
War in Ukraine, Gaza pummeled, the people starving and some can't handle a bad season at GGL? Get a grip.
Rough with the smooth it's what most football fans have to go through. Even the long standing Man City followers can remember extremely dark days.
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Post by surreyu on Mar 13, 2024 15:29:50 GMT
I wasn't expecting results to change over night and at no point did I ever think we'd finish anywhere above 24th but I also wasn't expecting the attitude of the manager towards the fans to be so negative. He barely acknowledges our existence and the interviews are poor. It has seeped into the players too and they often don't take the time to acknowledge the crowd after the game either. Yet to be convinced the club hasn't got this appointment horribly wrong
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Post by ggl on Mar 13, 2024 15:38:31 GMT
As much as this season has disappointed comparing it with 2007/8 is harsh. We need to remember what level the club is playing at. I will be reviewing that season in an upcoming programme so it may jog a few memories. As for people not turning up because they just can't bear what's happening, blimey. War in Ukraine, Gaza pummeled, the people starving and some can't handle a bad season at GGL? Get a grip. Rough with the smooth it's what most football fans have to go through. Even the long standing Man City followers can remember extremely dark days. As a half Ukrainian with family over there I fully agree with these words . For us supporters it has been a hard long season to endure and it has been very disappointing but it is certainly not life and death . However bad we are feeling it must be worse for our management team and indeed for most of the players , none of whom will have job security at the moment because results have been so poor . All we supporters have to do is to decide whether or not to continue attending matches next season ( I know for me the answer is yes ) but for most of them it is where or if they are to play / manage next season . Just ask Matt . The good times will return on the pitch , it is just a matter of time . Personally I would be happy with a nice and steady top half finish in the NL next season with no relegation dramas to contend with and to build from there . As for who is the most dedicated supporter …….. who cares , because when the match starts we are all cheering for the same side no matter how many of the previous matches anybody has gone to or for how long they have been supporting the club . So let’s all continue to have a moan on here but still get behind the club and the players when it really matters 😁 .
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Post by boomboom on Mar 13, 2024 15:48:00 GMT
Hard agree on that. Also, I'm not sure this 'I'm a more loyal fan that you are' stuff is helping. Which if not explicit in some posts is very much there as subtext. Still, we are all hurting at the moment and that manifests in many ways, so I suppose some tension should be expected. Agreed but make no mistake the worst thing anyone can do for the club is to stop watching. The more fans we hang onto next season the better for our ongoing aspirations and future. Hopefully anyone thinking that way will feel better about things post a summer’s break and hopefully some positive results! The good times will return!!I agree too but I at the same time I find some of the discussion about individual supporters pathetically puerile. We're all adults, as far as I can tell, and it's up to each of us to choose how we choose to spend our free time, without the need for being sniped at, whether explicitly or implicitly, by others. FWIW, I'll be glad when the season's over but will be renewing my ST as soon as they go on sale.
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Post by paz on Mar 13, 2024 15:53:40 GMT
Frustrating how this has happened, as you get the feeling the form this season is not how it had to be. And it was sad to see Matt let go as a result. That said, managers keeping their job for 5 years is a good innings nowadays. Personally, I think people have been too quick to judge Steve and how he has settled in, particularly given the position we are in which has probably been incredibly hard to settle in with.
I do get that he is a bit more of a 'get down to business' type, with a harder character, which is probably more down to us being different as a club than it is him. But I am still undecided on him, and the job he currently has is going to be a very important one going into next year. I would be surprised if there is an end-of-season player awards, or at least a public one.
It's going to be a struggle to hold onto any of our best players I think, so whoever it is in charge will need good contacts and probably need to be good at working with youngsters and with good man management.
I will of course get a season ticket next year, but if this form continues then there is no way I will be at every game, I have actually been quite depressed at times this season and is no good. Can't keep banging your head against a wall, and at some stage, its got to be down to the club and players to give fans a reason to want to be there. Its not only been the losses, its the manner in how this team has dropped points this year. I don't blame their efforts on the pitch, but something is obviously very much a miss. I get the feeling the club needs a big character who can get behind the wheel and really take control. I hope Steve can do that, we shall see.
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