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Post by markf on Jan 19, 2013 13:07:05 GMT
In relation to the spring problem, I found an article with regards to the ground in the 1920's. It was from the local paper & I took a print a year or so a go.
In it, it refers to Sir Thomas Wall providing the facility for sport and the ground being used by Sutton Rugby Club.
However, it alo refers to a pond being filled in, in the North East of the ground. I assume the pond was sourced by the spring as that is the same area where the pitch is having its spring problem at present.
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Post by timbo on Jan 19, 2013 13:16:06 GMT
Don't know anything about the spring but I did go to Thomas Wall Nursery School just off West Street!
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Post by Del on Jan 19, 2013 15:10:13 GMT
Sir Thomas Wall was a big benefactor in Sutton & other suburbs.
1846-1930
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Post by os on Jan 19, 2013 15:37:16 GMT
The GGL area is littered with little underground springs, they used to come up in the road years ago. Elmbrook rd is called that because it had a brook running through it and although not often seen nowadays it often used to resurface at the corner Elmbrook/Jeffs Rd. One of the main reasons the water appears to had dried up is that Cheam water works abstracts millions of ltrs out of the ground every day which has reduced water table levels. The water company as spent most of the last 20yrs moaning the levels were too low. Now everything is full, the water table cannot be any higher these springs are how you say springing back into action.
Sutton Green was a pond 100 yrs ago named 'Victoria pond' ago such was the extent of ground water.
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Post by oohaah on Jan 19, 2013 21:01:12 GMT
Purveyor of Walls Saugages and Ice Cream (but not on the same plate)
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Post by wellie on Jan 19, 2013 22:08:12 GMT
As far as i am aware the main Sutton Green was never a pond but the "Little Green" on the other side of the road was.The attatched photo shows Sutton Green in the background and the road heading up to Rose Hill.The pond was drained as kids were cutting their feet on broken glass when paddling in the pond. Attachments:
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Post by Andy K on Jan 19, 2013 23:44:02 GMT
Am I right in thinking that the sharp left/right turn on GGL between the ground and the cricket club was due to the fact there was a pond there?
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Post by os on Jan 20, 2013 0:41:12 GMT
Am I right in thinking that the sharp left/right turn on GGL between the ground and the cricket club was due to the fact there was a pond there? Although I don't know if there was ever a pond there but there a couple of Willows trees on the green and they normally grew around ponds? |
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Post by Del on Jan 20, 2013 8:55:06 GMT
I came off a motorcyle combination around that bend!  |
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Post by bornatotter on Jan 20, 2013 9:38:20 GMT
Motorcycle combination? That's not a piece of kit you hear about very often these days Delboy. My uncle frank had an isetta bubble car that you had to climb in through the front. I wish we'd kept that. Be worth a fortune now and I think he gave fifty quid for it. A lot of the springs and streams from when gander green lane was exactly that were culveted and diverted into Pyle Brook during the speculative building boom of the thirties leaving a legacy of subsidence in the area. We know. We've just had the back end of our gaff rebuilt after a protracted debate with insurers and the council. Can't mess with a force of nature.
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Post by sallycat on Jan 20, 2013 17:07:36 GMT
Wellie's right, OS. Victoria Pond was that small bit just on the other side of Bushey Road opposite Sutton Green, which is now known as Victoria Gardens - a rather grand name for what it is! Am I right in thinking that the sharp left/right turn on GGL between the ground and the cricket club was due to the fact there was a pond there? Yes - a village green with pond, almost certainly the "gander green." That, by the way, used to be where Cheam Village was centred, if you can believe it! It was built in the 1860s, and the guy who built it (or the Church itself?) wanted the village church to be visible for miles around so he built it on top of the highest hill in the area. In those days, the church would have been a focal point in a village like Cheam so the settlement sort of grew in that direction until the village ended up where it is today. If any of that's not quite right and anyone knows better, please feel free to correct me  |
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Post by sallycat on Jan 20, 2013 17:08:00 GMT
I went to Thomas Wall Nursery School too by the way.
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Post by markf on Jan 20, 2013 17:42:52 GMT
I'd have to question that Sarah. Whitehall and The Cottage in Cheam have been there for centuries and was awlays considered Cheam Village or Cheyham as it was once known. So too The Lumley Chapel in St Dunstan's Churchyard.
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Post by timbo on Jan 20, 2013 19:54:02 GMT
I went to Thomas Wall Nursery School too by the way. Myself c 1962 |
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Post by Del on Jan 20, 2013 20:24:08 GMT
Motorcycle combination? That's not a piece of kit you hear about very often these days Delboy. My uncle frank had an isetta bubble car that you had to climb in through the front. I wish we'd kept that. Be worth a fortune now and I think he gave fifty quid for it. A lot of the springs and streams from when gander green lane was exactly that were culveted and diverted into Pyle Brook during the speculative building boom of the thirties leaving a legacy of subsidence in the area. We know. We've just had the back end of our gaff rebuilt after a protracted debate with insurers and the council. Can't mess with a force of nature. I had an Isetta bubble car as well.I could drive it on a motorcyle licence and you were meant to blank off the reverse gear for some reason.I never did of course.Couldn't be pushing it backwards but i did roll it. |
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