Gareth
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Post by Gareth on Jan 24, 2014 17:37:52 GMT
Great to see Louis back at Sutton - he had an excellent 2/3rds of a season in our Youth Team in 2010/11 before he signed for Crawley
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Post by Andy K on Jan 24, 2014 18:13:20 GMT
The revolving door notion is ridiculous. It's part and parcel of life today at this footballing level. I'm sure we're not the team who has had the most changes this season, and many of the players who started the season are still here - Lovelock, Dundas, Binns, Downer, Taylor, Slabber, Sinclair, Williams. That's at least 7, possibly 8 players out of 11 who are more than likely to start week in week out for us. Add Clough and Scannell into the mix and you've almost got a starting XI. To me there are two reasons why we've had a big turnover in the last few weeks - one has been Jamie Stuart going to Margate and taking a few players with him - significantly Rivs, but others like Sam Rents probably was on borrowed time here - after his injury he was a shadow of the player we had here last season. But the real reason is that following on from our FA cup exit this year, we've been really poor for the rest of the year. We threw points away at Bath and Weston, we lost at home to the basement club where if we'd not taken the result for granted we'd have won, we gifted Staines 3 points, and even our wins were unconvincing (H&Y at home aside). As a result Dos has rung the changes, and some of those are wholesale because he thought he needed them. Like I said before, if I was Dos and those decisions were made, aside from Stuart and Rivs, I wouldn't have expected any of those players to escape the cull - McDonald was going off the boil, I've already said about Rents, Mitch was too inconsistent and he saw that Ali wasn't living up to his expected form ( a number of goals in that poor run were conceded by mistakes by him at the start). I'm sure Dos was looking for players to come in on a less temporary basis, but failing to get those, he's had to dip into the loan market, something he's gone on record saying he doesn't like doing, but it solves a short term issue.
Reading the player news from 14th January, the implication is that those who had signed on were on contracts, so unless Mitch's contract was cancelled we should expect something for him. To be honest if Margate have got Brown and Cash, then to pardon the pun, they've obviously got some cash to play with. Terry Brown would not go there for a lower end Ryman League budget.
Seeing we have another player on loan I think means that one of our current loan players has gone back to their parent club as I think we were at the maximum allowed - no idea who though, and it's been bad luck that the one month loan of most players coincided with the month we hardly played any games.
I'm sure Dos's post match tomorrow (all being well is that it's on!) will clear up a lot of those things, but since the Chelmsford game we've lost Mitch for sure (who didn't start) so most of the side should be the same. What we need to do is get behind the team as we always do - no player is bigger than the side, and have our faith in Dos undiminished. The only thing that bothers me about it is that Margate announced it before we have - but then we don't have people available to update the website 24/7 so it's forgivable.
Let's get behind the lads tomorrow, and our packed February with tough midweek away trips...
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Post by exiledsufc on Jan 24, 2014 19:12:45 GMT
Raining on and off all day,raining hard now for about an hour,and forecast until,the early hours,at least,down here
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billy
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Post by billy on Jan 24, 2014 19:53:59 GMT
I wasn't keen on him to start with but once he settled in i thought he was excellent.Now we don't have a right back or will someone new turn up tomorrow! This revolving door is getting ridiculous.[/b] Good post.You are not supporting a team - just a constantly changing group of players.It's farcical. |
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Post by shrewsbury posse on Jan 24, 2014 19:58:59 GMT
It's the club that you support, not the playing staff Billy
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Post by johnnie1 on Jan 24, 2014 20:20:05 GMT
When was the last time anyone asked you which "club" you support ? This morning! |
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Post by garethl on Jan 24, 2014 20:38:38 GMT
Train home.
Amazed that anyone is worried about the players we have lost. We have kept our best players, simple as that. We have got rid of some dead wood who were costing too much money. Well done the manager and fair play to be brave enough to take these decisions. Only Rivs out of those gone was I slightly disappointed to lose and even he doesn't have much time left. Clearly Margate have cash to spend and good luck to the players too taking what they can get. Didn't we do something similar last year and then embark on a fantastic run?! I trust Dos totally - if he hasn't got what he wanted out of players they haven't lasted, same since he joined us. You can still have players sticking around and having a decent stint, they just need to do the business e.g. Dundo!
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Post by Andy K on Jan 24, 2014 20:46:10 GMT
It's the club that you support, not the playing staff Billy Fair enough but surely you'd like to see the same team take the field for a run of games ? It really is ludicrous. Saying it's the modern way doesn't make it right. And at what point did I say it was right? I'm saying it's the nature of the beast. Adapt and survive. Of course we'd love the same 11 players to take the field week in week out for year upon year - when I first started supporting Sutton we had players like Tony Rains, Mckinnon, Rogers, Roffey, Hemsley, the Golley brothers etc where players stayed at clubs for years. But that just doesn't happen anymore. Anywhere. Look at any division in most places in the world and you see a constant turnover. It's only at the very tip top you'll get a Ryan Giggs one club man. At this level we cannot expect or in a lot of cases hope that players can stay in the long term. Good young players are ambitious to want to move their careers forward and older players who have more family commitments outside of Sutton (or any other club at this level) have to do what's right for them and their family, and probably quite rightly so part time non league football where in a lot of cases it only supplements your wages rather than pays for it. Billy I'd love it to be the era when players could afford to stay in the long term, and have the job security outside where people more had jobs for life. But that's not the working world anymore nor is it the footballing world at this level. As for not supporting a club, only supporting a group of players only serves to show how out of touch you are. Yes we want our "group of players" to win, but by supporting the club, you are also supporting the Chairman and others at SUFC who have dedicated most of their lives from a young age to the drive and passion that makes Sutton what it is on very limited resources. If I was one of those I'd be a little insulted by that comment. What happens on the pitch is obviously important, but without what happens off the pitch there wouldn't be a side to support, however constantly changing you see them to be. How about you come to the bar after a game and have a chat with Dos, or Bruce or anyone at the club trying their hardest to make this work. They would be very willing to talk to you or anyone else. I think you may find it refreshing and eye opening. |
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Post by os on Jan 24, 2014 21:03:21 GMT
Spot on Andy, we support a club and its ambitions not just the 1st team.
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Post by Stewart on Jan 24, 2014 21:45:32 GMT
I wasn't keen on him to start with but once he settled in i thought he was excellent.Now we don't have a right back or will someone new turn up tomorrow! This revolving door is getting ridiculous.[/b] Good post.You are not supporting a team - just a constantly changing group of players.It's farcical.[/quote] I don't often agree with your comments Billy, but you do liven up this forum  |
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Post by bornatotter on Jan 25, 2014 9:09:05 GMT
In an attempt to try and drag this back onto thread......Anyone picking up any news on the match prospects?
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Post by johnnie1 on Jan 25, 2014 9:11:23 GMT
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Post by bornatotter on Jan 25, 2014 9:15:01 GMT
Cheers Johnnie
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Post by Andy K on Jan 25, 2014 11:01:07 GMT
4 games off so far today - Stortford v Whitehawk, Chelmsford v Dorchester, Concord v Staines, Havant v Maidenhead. With the exception of the last one, the rain we had last night must have lingered a bit for in Essex.
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jr
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Post by jr on Jan 25, 2014 11:36:55 GMT
Yes I was in Southend this morning and it's very wet there so not surprised.
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