Game OFF

[tonyd]

If it’s any consolation to the travellers, Blackpool v Charlton has been called off at 2:15. 😮

[Andy K]

Jan 27, 2018 14:22:49 GMT mca said:

Jan 27, 2018 13:10:33 GMT sallycat said:

As one of the travelling fans who's had to turn back when almost at the destination (with the added complications arising from having to leave the baby at home)...

Come off it, guys. Are you seriously blaming Barrow for the weather? The pitch was playable first thing this morning by all accounts and the rain was far worse than forecast. The postponement was not announced much later than the earliest it could have been. It's not Barrow's fault they are a very long way from us and that we therefore had to get up early and make a long and expensive journey.

As for the pitch, it's daft to imply that they should have one like ours just because we have one. Nobody would have thought to make those comments a few years ago. I am guessing the comments were made to illustrate the fact that while the Football League don't want them it's daft to ban them because of this sort of situation, but when such comments are made in conjunction with what appear to be disparaging remarks towards our would-be hosts, it starts to look like you're saying they are in the wrong for not having one!

Yes we are all frustrated and fed up but let's not make Sutton fans look like a bunch of spoiled whingers.

Show me 1 quote where someone blames Barrow and not the situation as a whole

Your first post and your response to the Barrow fan do quite clearly to anyone with even a slight level of intelligence.

The fact is the game was called off due to severe weather this morning yes? How can that "clearly not allowed to happen". How can this be changed? Call the game off the day before just in case?

And as for those looking for compensation? Are you serious? Honestly?

Like I said people are upset and of course who isn't (I drove as far as Wigan before finding out). But unlike some on here these things do happen. Even with a 3g pitch it still may have been called off if unsafe for spectators.

[mca]

Jan 27, 2018 14:35:39 GMT Andy K said:

Jan 27, 2018 14:22:49 GMT mca said:

Show me 1 quote where someone blames Barrow and not the situation as a whole

Your first post and your response to the Barrow fan do quite clearly to anyone with even a slight level of intelligence.

The fact is the game was called off due to severe weather this morning yes? How can that "clearly not allowed to happen". How can this be changed? Call the game off the day before just in case?

And as for those looking for compensation? Are you serious? Honestly?

Like I said people are upset and of course who isn't (I drove as far as Wigan before finding out). But unlike some on here these things do happen. Even with a 3g pitch it still may have been called off if unsafe for spectators.

That'll be where I said "clearly this isn't just Barrow"? Or where I suggested that Suttons pitch doesn't compare to Lutons of 30 years ago? And I didn't mention compensation. Nobody had blamed Barrow outright. You can't run a sport like this anymore. You simply cannot justify people travelling the length of the country for nothing. It's too expensive. If a few hours heavy rain makes pitches unplayable, then theres something wrong and people are entitled to question what's going on

[berkshiresutt]

Frustratingly we will also drop to 4th in the league as well, unless either Wrexham vs Tranmere gets postponed/abandoned or Aldershot lose by 8 against Leyton Orient.  I hope all the fans/players/management have a safe journey back.  Even happier that Brackley got through in the Trophy now - I could imagine many fans not bothering if it had been away to Barrow next weekend.

[Amber Aleman]

Having been birdwatching on the north side of Morecambe Bay this morning, about fifteen miles east of Barrow, I'm surprised at the claim that the weather was worse than expected. There was light rain for about two-and-a-half hours, not the heavy stuff that had been forecast. If Barrow's pitch couldn't withstand that then it must have been in a pretty sorry state to start with.

Of course it's possible that the rain was much heavier in Barrow than where I was. But I doubt it.

Naturally, I'm putting the unexpected time to good use by embarking in a pub crawl of the Furness peninsula. ☺

[garethl]

On the positive side at least we’ll be fresher for Brackley. Might make the difference in a tough tie.

[billy]

I don't follow it closely enough to know who is part time and who is full time but it surely begs the question as to whether there should even be a national league at this level.

I assume a lot of teams (including Sutton) are forced,for whatever reason,to travel on the day - not ideal or proper preparation.

Add in hotel,travel expenses etc and it's not hard to see why a lot of teams are struggling with their finances.

Torquay v Barrow ?

[davef]

The Poolies are at Eastleigh today, almost as far. (and are 2-1 up at h/t)

[sallycat]

To be fair, this is the first game we've had called off en route since we've returned to this level.

[Andy K]

Jan 27, 2018 14:47:24 GMT mca said:

Jan 27, 2018 14:35:39 GMT Andy K said:

Your first post and your response to the Barrow fan do quite clearly to anyone with even a slight level of intelligence.

The fact is the game was called off due to severe weather this morning yes? How can that "clearly not allowed to happen". How can this be changed? Call the game off the day before just in case?

And as for those looking for compensation? Are you serious? Honestly?

Like I said people are upset and of course who isn't (I drove as far as Wigan before finding out). But unlike some on here these things do happen. Even with a 3g pitch it still may have been called off if unsafe for spectators.

That'll be where I said "clearly this isn't just Barrow"? Or where I suggested that Suttons pitch doesn't compare to Lutons of 30 years ago? And I didn't mention compensation. Nobody had blamed Barrow outright. You can't run a sport like this anymore. You simply cannot justify people travelling the length of the country for nothing. It's too expensive. If a few hours heavy rain makes pitches unplayable, then theres something wrong and people are entitled to question what's going on

No. Your first post. Where you threw your toys out of the pram. Forgive me for not noticing your inability to count.

And actually I didn't mention you in my first response either.

Pointless going on with this. You just carry on saying what you are saying and you can respond to anyone who doesn't agree as some sort of attack. Well done sir.

[kpinwp]

Jan 27, 2018 13:13:34 GMT mca said:

Jan 27, 2018 13:00:02 GMT billy said:

I'm just stating the obvious.Barrow play on grass,didn't you know that before you booked it ? Travelling all these long distances to watch non league football is lunacy,you don't have to be there.

Lunacy? Maybe but each to their own Billy or are you telling people how they should spend their leisure time now?

Of couse he is. This is the fan who once asked an Admin member of this forum if they didn't have any work to do instead.

[mca]

Jan 27, 2018 16:16:04 GMT Andy K said:

Jan 27, 2018 14:47:24 GMT mca said:

That'll be where I said "clearly this isn't just Barrow"? Or where I suggested that Suttons pitch doesn't compare to Lutons of 30 years ago? And I didn't mention compensation. Nobody had blamed Barrow outright. You can't run a sport like this anymore. You simply cannot justify people travelling the length of the country for nothing. It's too expensive. If a few hours heavy rain makes pitches unplayable, then theres something wrong and people are entitled to question what's going on

No. Your first post. Where you threw your toys out of the pram. Forgive me for not noticing your inability to count.

And actually I didn't mention you in my first responser.

Pointless going on with this. You just carry on saying what you are saying and you can respond to anyone who doesn't agree as some sort of attack. Well done sir.

It's called a discussion. You've accused me of having no intelligence and not being able to count, show me where I've been rude to anyone. Actually quote it, don't be vague. I never mentioned Barrow in my 1st post either. Your constant attempts to shut down anything approaching a debate is strange

[northernmonkey]

Think it’s a bit harsh to blame Barrow for calling the game off.

What is hilarious though is the claim made by a visiting poster that the pitch at Holker Street is one of the best in the league.

I have visited Holker Street over 10 times, mainly whilst I lived in the Lake District for over 25 years and it is consistently a ploughed field. It is rolled over and over and over until the water has nowhere to go. It is laughably poor for a National league ground and if poor grass pitches will continue to be the norm in the NL, the league should look at drainage standards, because Barrow now have a strong track record of multiple postponements per season.

[Andy K]

Jan 27, 2018 12:00:35 GMT mca said:

Absolute joke. This can't be allowed to happen. People spend alot of time and money and all for nothing. The team plans are buggered. Everyone is messed about. Shouldn't happen

I quote you here. Who is to blame? Come on, add to the debate

[mca]

Jan 27, 2018 17:57:33 GMT Andy K said:

Jan 27, 2018 12:00:35 GMT mca said:

Absolute joke. This can't be allowed to happen. People spend alot of time and money and all for nothing. The team plans are buggered. Everyone is messed about. Shouldn't happen

I quote you here. Who is to blame? Come on, add to the debate

Thank you. I havnt blamed anyone, so why are you saying I have? The situation, of people travelling 300 miles for an event to be cancelled late on isn't acceptable. Sutton have released a statement expressing their frustration, are they wrong? Should they have just said that's the way the cookie bounces and the fans who travelled should just suck it up? The post above this one does actually put it on Barrow more than anyone else has. If they've had a crap pitch for 25 years, in one of the wettest parts of the country and havnt addressed it, then maybe it is an issue. I've clearly said the situation isn't on, if you wanna debate why it isn't a problem fine, but you seem to want to misrepresent people and start an argument when people have valid reasons to be naffed off