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Post by sallycat on Mar 1, 2018 19:47:45 GMT
We used to compete in both. Out of interest why do you think that would be "better for the club"?
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Post by Del on Mar 1, 2018 19:52:34 GMT
One thing that has been on my mind is how Tooting are affiliated to the London FA and we aren’t even though both clubs are technically in London or Greater London, Met Police are Part of the London FA even though they are in Surrey, did we reject to move FA’s or what, always found that interesting, think the London Senior Cup would be better for the club in my opinion, lets just win the SSC two more times so we beat DHFC record the switch to the London FA! We used to play in the LSC as well as the SSC in days gone by. Sutton can still be considered in the County of Surrey if not administered by them any more. Personally i would have preferred Sutton to have remained in the County as what i have witnessed is a gradual downturn over the years.
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Post by Andy K on Mar 1, 2018 20:11:37 GMT
We're affiliated to the Surrey FA. Sure the club has reasons for that rather than London. And either makes no difference to anything aside for a county cup.
I hope this doesn't turn into the Surrey/South London debate yet again. Utterly pointless twaddle.
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Post by ryooon1999 on Mar 1, 2018 20:50:50 GMT
We used to compete in both. Out of interest why do you think that would be "better for the club"? Well I think it could be more interesting playing teams like Dulwich and Tooting and Wingate and teams like that, teams in the LSC are generally in higher leagues whereas the SSC is mainly full of Combined Counties teams and isn’t very appealing as the LSC, hence why I think it would be better to play in the LSC...
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Post by ryooon1999 on Mar 1, 2018 20:52:37 GMT
One thing that has been on my mind is how Tooting are affiliated to the London FA and we aren’t even though both clubs are technically in London or Greater London, Met Police are Part of the London FA even though they are in Surrey, did we reject to move FA’s or what, always found that interesting, think the London Senior Cup would be better for the club in my opinion, lets just win the SSC two more times so we beat DHFC record the switch to the London FA! We used to play in the LSC as well as the SSC in days gone by. Sutton can still be considered in the County of Surrey if not administered by them any more. Personally i would have preferred Sutton to have remained in the County as what i have witnessed is a gradual downturn over the years. Oh really didn’t know that, well unfortunately Sutton was an area that was unfortunately taken out of Surrey and created one of the Boroughs to form the County of Greater London. I too would have preferred us to stay in Surrey but we can’t really change that now, but I do think it’s time that we did start competing in the LSC....
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Post by ryooon1999 on Mar 1, 2018 20:54:44 GMT
We're affiliated to the Surrey FA. Sure the club has reasons for that rather than London. And either makes no difference to anything aside for a county cup. I hope this doesn't turn into the Surrey/South London debate yet again. Utterly pointless twaddle. Of course the club has reasons and I fully respect that of course but I do always think every year why we haven’t changed FA to the London FA to compete in the London Senior Cup because in my eyes it does seem correct, but nothing against the Surrey FA at all, I just think the LSC, would be a better option for the club but the club knows best sometimes... and it won’t turn into a debate because we are historically Surrey and have been in the county of Greater London since 1965, easy.... don’t need to argue
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Post by markf on Mar 1, 2018 21:01:31 GMT
Surrey was and always has been U's primary county FA, the London affiliation was secondary and ended after the 83/4 season when U's pulled the plug because of the amount of matches being played back then and the extra cost.
Geographical location would have played a part as when Sutton was founded the town was in Surrey as would have been most clubs now classed as South London.
The LSC was rarely a happy comp for Sutton with some disappointing defeats to so-called lower opposition and some quite diabolical referees. Still, we do have a 100% record in finals.
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Post by Andy K on Mar 1, 2018 21:02:19 GMT
We're affiliated to the Surrey FA. Sure the club has reasons for that rather than London. And either makes no difference to anything aside for a county cup. I hope this doesn't turn into the Surrey/South London debate yet again. Utterly pointless twaddle. Of course the club has reasons and I fully respect that of course but I do always think every year why we haven’t changed FA to the London FA to compete in the London Senior Cup because in my eyes it does seem correct, but nothing against the Surrey FA at all, I just think the LSC, would be a better option for the club but the club knows best sometimes... and it won’t turn into a debate because we are historically Surrey and have been in the county of Greater London since 1965, easy.... don’t need to argue Like I said makes no difference aside from our smallest competition. And why should the club change. No reason to. Going on a previous point you mention Met Police. They are the side set up to represent the Metropolitan Police force. Until recently they had a quota of serving police officer in their squad. Makes no difference their ground is in Surrey they're about as representative of London as you can get.
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Post by ryooon1999 on Mar 1, 2018 21:06:16 GMT
Just something on my mind, just every season I think why haven’t we changed but I do agree that we don’t need to change but it’s always been at the back of my mind why we haven’t changed but it isn’t really in the clubs interest to change so I can fully understand that, just think it would make the competition a bit more interesting if we played in the LSC. Anyway onto next season and if we go up, we will still be competing in the competition, I’m not sure?
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Post by markf on Mar 1, 2018 21:10:17 GMT
One other point about the LSC was how ridiculous it got with regards to catchment area. We have played Horsham in it and Hitchin too. It used to be considered only second to the Amateur Cup in terms of strength but that is not the case now. A couple of weeks ago, Balham knocked out Hendon.
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Post by ryooon1999 on Mar 1, 2018 21:12:40 GMT
One other point about the LSC was how ridiculous it got with regards to catchment area. We have played Horsham in it and Hitchin too. It used to be considered only second to the Amateur Cup in terms of strength but that is not the case now. A couple of weeks ago, Balham knocked out Hendon. Well that’s weird. I think if the people from the London FA think Horsham is in London then they should have payed attention in geography or retake it 😂
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Post by tonyd on Mar 1, 2018 22:39:59 GMT
I remember being knocked out of the LSC at Farmborough of all places! Another problem I recall was that the London FA insisted games were played on a Saturday, taking precedence over league games, although they’ve backed down from that. Can’t see why anybody would want us to play in a competiton where we would have to travel longer distances to watch our reserves?
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Post by sallycat on Mar 2, 2018 8:59:29 GMT
That's exactly why I questioned the idea that it would be better for the club.
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Post by johnnie1 on Mar 2, 2018 11:05:52 GMT
If you're putting out a primarily academy side I can see the argument it would help to enter both, though you'd probably never actually win either. Young players get more experience playing first team opposition whilst any first team players in need of game time can be given it
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