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Post by davef on Jul 6, 2018 17:25:47 GMT
As has been announced on the club's website and has been referred to elsewhere on this forum, the club is required to implement some amended rules for where spectators may stand during matches.
ALL standing spectators are required to view matches from behind the crush barriers. This means that nobody is allowed up to the pitch perimeter fence or on the flat standing areas. We do realise that this is a significant change to what we are all used to and we apologise for any inconvenience and disappointment that this may cause, however we would ask everyone to respect this requirement and cooperate with the match stewards if asked to move behind the barriers. This change obviously affects our overall capacity, but the new barriers do significantly increase the capacity of those areas, and although the total is reduced at the moment we do still meet the requirement for the National League.
It is also worth making the point that standing on "on the flat" is not allowed at all in the EFL.
We hope that this will only be a temporary arrangement and we are investigating solutions to resolve this issue but, until we can put measures in place, we do ask for your cooperation. |
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Post by markf on Jul 6, 2018 17:57:40 GMT
I know this is not the club's fault but that of some tick box exercise from a lbs numpty who fails to realise that even with 5,000 in the ground there were no issues with the perimeter fence 're "taking the weight.
No doubt same beauracrat that halved the away end last season for the Boreham Wood fixture trying to justify his salary.
We of course all know it is bollocks and just another example of the sanitised world we now live in.
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Post by surreyu on Jul 6, 2018 18:02:35 GMT
So is the shoebox now out of use?
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Post by davef on Jul 6, 2018 18:09:02 GMT
Actually no, the Shoebox can be used ! My one little victory !!
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Post by Jared on Jul 6, 2018 19:02:50 GMT
I’m not overly surprised by this, it’s a longstanding FL rule, and haven’t the new crash barriers help maintain the capacity?
I do have a question on segregation, is that a permanent thing for home league games now, or will it still be on a game by game basis? Just my personal curiosity
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Post by davef on Jul 6, 2018 19:13:05 GMT
Game by game based on advance intelligence but the majority of league games will probably be segregated.
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Post by georgieboy on Jul 6, 2018 19:23:01 GMT
Gutted about this. Will have a real effect on atmosphere for both fans and players. Collingwood rec side in particular.
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Post by davef on Jul 6, 2018 19:30:23 GMT
We do recognize the implications, we are working on finding a cost-effective solution.
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Post by halftimet on Jul 6, 2018 20:46:51 GMT
As has been announced on the club's website and has been referred to elsewhere on this forum, the club is required to implement some amended rules for where spectators may stand during matches.
ALL standing spectators are required to view matches from behind the crush barriers. This means that nobody is allowed up to the pitch perimeter fence or on the flat standing areas. We do realise that this is a significant change to what we are all used to and we apologise for any inconvenience and disappointment that this may cause, however we would ask everyone to respect this requirement and cooperate with the match stewards if asked to move behind the barriers. This change obviously affects our overall capacity, but the new barriers do significantly increase the capacity of those areas, and although the total is reduced at the moment we do still meet the requirement for the National League.
It is also worth making the point that standing on "on the flat" is not allowed at all in the EFL.
We hope that this will only be a temporary arrangement and we are investigating solutions to resolve this issue but, until we can put measures in place, we do ask for your cooperation. Will these rules apply at all National League grounds? |
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Post by davef on Jul 6, 2018 21:02:04 GMT
The rules come from the "Green Guide" and are the same for everyone. Standing against the fence at other grounds could be permitted subject to the physical nature of the fence.
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Post by simon on Jul 7, 2018 5:56:37 GMT
What does it reduce our capacity too?
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Post by mca on Jul 7, 2018 6:44:01 GMT
This means kids can't be at the front against the fence? I know it's all relative but that is a nightmare. I bring 3 with me and they love being down the front close to the action. If they have to mingle in with the adults they won't be able to see. Totally realise it's not the club's fault but that is rubbish
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Post by davethegrave on Jul 8, 2018 19:40:12 GMT
I am totally disgusted by this new arrangement? Why on earth is it necessary? It totally spoils my, and my other friends, enjoyment of coming to a Sutton United game.
We are already far enough away from the pitch.
Whose rules are these? The Football League? We're not in the football league.
That space is all wasted. Why? Please explain. You have my money and now you are stopping me enjoying the matches here.
PS - I never saw anything on the Club web site. Where is it?
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Post by davethegrave on Jul 8, 2018 19:41:18 GMT
The rules come from the "Green Guide" and are the same for everyone. Standing against the fence at other grounds could be permitted subject to the physical nature of the fence. I remember this at Woking some years ago and I thought it was ridiculous then. And if it's a "guide" then surely it's not compulsory. |
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Post by sallycat on Jul 8, 2018 20:15:03 GMT
That is a very simplistic assumption.
I can think of several situations in which regulations/legislation would dictate that certain action is very much compulsory but a guide would be produced as to how individuals may go about ensuring that the regulations are met. The reason why it's a guide rather than a set of very specific rules as to exactly how things must be done is that every (in this case) sports ground is different and therefore one rule might not be applicable to every ground.
It may be called a guide but you can bet your arse that you'll be in trouble if you don't comply with it.
As for "You have my money and now you are stopping me enjoying the matches here," do you think the Sports Grounds Safety Authority somehow have your money and are reading this? Or have you merely completely failed to comprehend every post in this thread explaining how it's out of the club's hands? They're not happy with it either - bit stupid to have a go at them for it.
And if you think we're far away from the pitch you obviously haven't been to many away games in the last two seasons.
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