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Post by surreyu on Jul 10, 2018 15:39:53 GMT
I certainly don't envy the stewards working in the away end who are gonna be tasked to keeping all of the fans inside the terrace for 90 minutes. An impossible job and they get to start against Eastleigh's mob
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Post by baboonfish on Jul 10, 2018 19:18:01 GMT
Far from ideal but I've long been of the opinion ggl has very poor viewing options. This will of course make things even worse but the positive is that the grounds obvious shortcomings will need addressing asap. Imo the only good viewing spots left aside from the grandstand are the far corner terrace and rec end. Latter is almost always away end now and h&s/live TV rigging etc are slowly eroding any good spots. We desperately need that big rec side stand and my 2nd wish would be a much higher and closer to the action ggl end.
It's fair to say our ground is rapidly becoming a dreadful place to view a game, ironically with the increase in quality on the pitch. I'm sure the club has plans to improve things but we must now find a way to bring these plans forwaRd.
Hopefully we can get our hands on some ground improvement grants but how about an optional supplement of £100 (50 concessions ) on 2019/20 season tickets with only those paying it allowed to use the new stand for the first season. Would be quite a privilege and I'd happily pay it. Could potentially 100k towards the new stand.
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Post by pxh on Jul 10, 2018 19:54:14 GMT
From what I recall regarding Woking's ground, their excuse was spectators were blocking access for emergency vehicles.
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Post by os on Jul 10, 2018 20:30:05 GMT
I have given this a bit more thought, and the actual policy to have all fans behind a barrier leaving walkways clear is a very sensible one. However implementing such a policy at a ground which was clearly designed to be a non league ground has real issues.
GGL has very wide walkways, as many modern or specifically designed grounds have much narrower ones, hence leaving the walkways clear and not impacting viewing works perfectly, and makes the ground safer. I think it has the opposite affect at a ground like ours, imagine if they implimented this at Basingstoke for example?
Whatever the credentials of the clipboard chap, the club should have been given time to make changes. IMHO I think this case is one instance where the rule book has taken precedence over commonsense, for which no blame at all can be attributed to the club..
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Post by davethegrave on Jul 10, 2018 21:35:33 GMT
I think it would be interesting to see the HSE report as it affects us, the fans. I would also be interested to see the HSE report for the Woking v Aldershot game on 1 Jan 2017 where there were 3224 people in attendance. Freedom of Information requests may have to go in! We have had 3 crowds above 3224 since 1 Jan 2017 with arsenal being the obvious with plenty of people climbing on the perimeter fence. It appears to me that Woking's fence is lower than ours. How deep are their foundations compared to ours? Was there a fault in the material or the construction process? Were the same construction firms used for both projects and what's their HSE record? We, I would say, have a larger ground and certainly more fencing so the load would be spread more evenly. Has this been taken into account? All answers I'm sure the reports with reveal. To me though as Mark says. I seem to have missed this. Was there a problem there? Did something happen which resulted in these stupid restrictions at GGL? |
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Post by meddles on Jul 11, 2018 7:19:03 GMT
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Post by brisfitboy on Jul 11, 2018 9:40:33 GMT
Err is it me or is there not a significant support difference between the collapsed barrier and ours at GGL. Also the height difference must have a bearing, theirs looks like a much lower leagues protection barrier with crowds of 250 a game, if that!
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Post by trev on Jul 11, 2018 9:47:35 GMT
Playing devil's advocate here, on the few occasions where I have leaned on the pitch-side barrier, it has very audibly creaked and shifted somewhat. Now I'm no expert on the load bearing of barriers and I have no idea how many years our barriers have been in place, but I'd much rather be safe than sorry. I appreciate it's a wrench for those who have stood in that position for decades, but personally, standing a few metres further back is neither here nor there.
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Post by georgieboy on Jul 11, 2018 9:51:54 GMT
It’ll be loads more dangerous in the rec and GGL stands behind those rigid barriers ( with very few exits!!). Everyone crammed in, short people unable to see. When a big goal is scored or everyone looks to exit at speed for some reason it won’t be fun.
Ridiculous decision by the HSE bod or whoever.
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Post by davethegrave on Jul 11, 2018 17:02:00 GMT
Playing devil's advocate here, on the few occasions where I have leaned on the pitch-side barrier, it has very audibly creaked and shifted somewhat. Now I'm no expert on the load bearing of barriers and I have no idea how many years our barriers have been in place, but I'd much rather be safe than sorry. I appreciate it's a wrench for those who have stood in that position for decades, but personally, standing a few metres further back is neither here nor there. Maybe you should go on a diet. On the rec side the barriers have only been there a couple of years. |
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Post by sallycat on Jul 11, 2018 17:23:34 GMT
What you suggesting Dave? We put up a sign saying nobody over a certain weight is allowed to lean on the barrier?
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Post by trev on Jul 11, 2018 18:49:14 GMT
Playing devil's advocate here, on the few occasions where I have leaned on the pitch-side barrier, it has very audibly creaked and shifted somewhat. Now I'm no expert on the load bearing of barriers and I have no idea how many years our barriers have been in place, but I'd much rather be safe than sorry. I appreciate it's a wrench for those who have stood in that position for decades, but personally, standing a few metres further back is neither here nor there. Maybe you should go on a diet. On the rec side the barriers have only been there a couple of years. What a charming fellow you are. Besides which, if everyone weighing 14 stone or more is required to go on a diet in order to lean against the barrier safely, it does rather suggest that the current measures designed to prevent fans from so doing are very well founded. |
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Post by davethegrave on Jul 11, 2018 21:49:23 GMT
Maybe you should go on a diet. On the rec side the barriers have only been there a couple of years. What a charming fellow you are. Besides which, if everyone weighing 14 stone or more is required to go on a diet in order to lean against the barrier safely, it does rather suggest that the current measures designed to prevent fans from so doing are very well founded. Well if you're causing the barriers to creak you must be over 20 stone. |
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Post by davethegrave on Jul 11, 2018 21:50:14 GMT
Does nobody have a sense of humour on here?
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Post by VCLXI on Jul 11, 2018 21:55:33 GMT
Yes. But not on comments where they aren't funny. Deadpan or not.
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