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Post by halftimet on Oct 14, 2023 17:13:16 GMT
If this continues, I can see people "walking " Regarding the board.They have a very hard decision to make.Question,will they make any? The way we are going. We won't need the new stand!! At Rochdale last season I said to Matt that that game was pathetic. It’s just continuing even with a change in players. It won’t just be the stand. I suggest we would lose the training ground and the majority of our back room staff. Not to mention sponsorship revenue. We might need to go cap in hand to someone like South Park for a training facility.
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Post by sufc1898 on Oct 14, 2023 17:19:55 GMT
Brilliant - planning for the future already 🙄
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Post by is4 on Oct 14, 2023 17:20:52 GMT
I quite agree with you. How much money has been wasted on the training ground and all the extra back ground staff that have been brought in?
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Post by boomboom on Oct 14, 2023 17:24:58 GMT
If this continues, I can see people "walking " Regarding the board.They have a very hard decision to make.Question,will they make any? The way we are going. We won't need the new stand!! At Rochdale last season I said to Matt that that game was pathetic. It’s just continuing even with a change in players. It won’t just be the stand. I suggest we would lose the training ground and the majority of our back room staff. Not to mention sponsorship revenue. We might need to go cap in hand to someone like South Park for a training facility. I'd suggest it could be worse than that. Relegation risks a downward spiral, possibly through the NL, down to NLS and maybe even lower.
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Post by Del on Oct 14, 2023 17:29:15 GMT
Looking at it objectively i would question why our central midfielders who got rave reviews last week were both abysmal this week.The team can't afford one good week and one bad week. Add to that the fact that Patrick wasn't in the game at all and as Tony D said on commentary was completely out of position most of the time.Coley was good and Smith did well except he didn't link with O'Brien very well. Deano's kicking was awful and why punt the ball up long to Smith if we use wingers. Surely the ball has to be played along the ground to them if they are to attack the opposition. Where was the high press today so effective last week ? The team needs to take a good look at themselves. Only 3 points off the bottom but they need to battle.
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Post by sufc1898 on Oct 14, 2023 17:38:05 GMT
Actually a good week (win) then bad week (lose) alternate weeks, will prob be enough to keep us up anyway.
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Post by Del on Oct 14, 2023 17:55:53 GMT
I quite agree with you. How much money has been wasted on the training ground and all the extra back ground staff that have been brought in? Wasted! Explain why ?
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Post by paz on Oct 14, 2023 18:00:34 GMT
From this point we either need to accept relegation is the most likely outcome and come Jan, start to balance the books best we can if at all possible. We are not good enough for this league, either because our players have dropped in their ability, which does happen at this level, or the league has just got better. We are certainly not in a position to start investing in a new stand. As for Matt, Regardless of ones opinion, I cant see the club replacing him this season, and to be fair even if he was to be replaced I am not sure we have the players who can turn it around under a new manager and staff in time for a significant impact. And in truth Matt might be the best option for us in the Nat league rather than taking a punt on another. The bottom line is we are not good enough. Which is disappointing given our last two seasons where one would have been less surprised at such form. So we should just throw the towel in and give up, because according to you that is what we should do. I thought we were better than that and want to be at this level. I think we have the players but do we have the manager, only the board can answer that and they need to make a decision fairly soon. I am just being pragmatic. As things stand this side would struggle in the Nat league let alone this league. and a couple decent results here are there will not matter come the end of the season. what counts is how much points we get. How much is the training ground costing us? Are we going to need to still build the new stand? Are players getting good wages and are we able to cut there contracts short? We are not good enough and our options are limited. 2 wins and a draw in 13 games is cast iron relegation. and other teams will have more money around us. As things stand we are getting relegated, and I have seen nothing to suggest that wont happen despite the teams efforts, so how do we deal with that? prepare or toss a coin that we might all of a sudden turn into a good side? I am not even criticising the players or Matt, I just do not believe we are good enough for the league.
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Post by is4 on Oct 14, 2023 18:01:45 GMT
Sorry that should have read, spent on the ground and extra back room staff. I feel it is money badly spent.As we stand at present.
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Post by boomboom on Oct 14, 2023 18:02:16 GMT
I quite agree with you. How much money has been wasted on the training ground and all the extra back ground staff that have been brought in? Wasted! Explain why ? Junior Lewis's salary appears to have been wasted given the players don't seem to be better coached than previously.
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Post by Del on Oct 14, 2023 18:12:26 GMT
Whatever happens we need a training ground and the way it was explained to me was that we need to increase our seating to continue to play in the football league or if relegated to be able to play in the football league at a future time. Ie the clock is ticking.
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Post by paz on Oct 14, 2023 18:16:08 GMT
From this point we either need to accept relegation is the most likely outcome and come Jan, start to balance the books best we can if at all possible. We are not good enough for this league, either because our players have dropped in their ability, which does happen at this level, or the league has just got better. We are certainly not in a position to start investing in a new stand. As for Matt, Regardless of ones opinion, I cant see the club replacing him this season, and to be fair even if he was to be replaced I am not sure we have the players who can turn it around under a new manager and staff in time for a significant impact. And in truth Matt might be the best option for us in the Nat league rather than taking a punt on another. The bottom line is we are not good enough. Which is disappointing given our last two seasons where one would have been less surprised at such form. Here we go again , the start of the “Save our Matt “ campaign . So , in your opinion we keep him in post because the board are too scared or stupid to see the writing on the wall in front of them and hope he keeps us in the National League next season . In the meantime we wait another 100 years to get back into the EFL . Sounds like a plan , just not one that I care for . I don't believe the club will sack him. But yes, clearly he is struggling. To replace him and the staff would cost more money and will still take time. In reality we would need to take a punt on someone unknown. Maybe even someone like Jimmy Dack, who would not guaranty results...
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Post by brisfitboy on Oct 14, 2023 18:35:26 GMT
OK , I predicted correctly last Saturdays 4-0 win , it was done more in hope than expectation ! This weekend I am going for a 0-2 result to us 🤞🤞. As an aside I am utterly disgusted by the FA’s decision NOT to display blue and white on the Wembley arch tonight . Totally gutless in my opinion and before anybody asks I am not Jewish , half Ukrainian yes but not Jewish . Politics should be kept out of sport, so I am not at all 'disgusted'. Err sorry: Munich 1972, ring a bell?
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Post by halftimet on Oct 14, 2023 18:43:34 GMT
Just watched the post match interview. Surely the system cannot be that complicated that we need three months for the players to understand it.
As an opposition manager I just need to play through the midfield and with width overload the full backs.
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Post by garethl on Oct 14, 2023 18:45:08 GMT
Looking at it objectively i would question why our central midfielders who got rave reviews last week were both abysmal this week.The team can't afford one good week and one bad week. Add to that the fact that Patrick wasn't in the game at all and as Tony D said on commentary was completely out of position most of the time.Coley was good and Smith did well except he didn't link with O'Brien very well. Deano's kicking was awful and why punt the ball up long to Smith if we use wingers. Surely the ball has to be played along the ground to them if they are to attack the opposition. Where was the high press today so effective last week ? The team needs to take a good look at themselves. Only 3 points off the bottom but they need to battle. Coley produced end product akin to a Sunday pub side. We all have bad days but if that was a good one he belongs levels below! He’s shown something but today his crossing was beyond woeful. Not saying it impacted the result necessarily but he wasted a fair few promising positions.
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