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Post by Andy K on Sept 4, 2024 18:35:48 GMT
“Pathetic” that you can’t prove it.Very Amateurish Administration. No. Personal messages are just that. Admins have no access to anyone's personal messages. We don't share personal messages in public. No one is forced to share personal messages. The fact that you are demanding to see any users personal messages is pathetic. I think it's clear to see what your motivation is to make 4 threads on the same subject, especially as you have no issue with the "reply" function. If you find any other articles on the topic, you're welcome to share them on this thread, as you've obviously spent time looking for them. From now on, starting a new thread on this particular topic/story will result in that thread being deleted instantly, and I'll discuss with the other admins if we feel collectively if further action needs to be taken.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2024 18:47:10 GMT
“Pathetic” that you can’t prove it.Very Amateurish Administration. No. Personal messages are just that. Admins have no access to anyone's personal messages. We don't share personal messages in public. No one is forced to share personal messages. The fact that you are demanding to see any users personal messages is pathetic. I think it's clear to see what your motivation is to make 4 threads on the same subject, especially as you have no issue with the "reply" function. If you find any other articles on the topic, you're welcome to share them on this thread, as you've obviously spent time looking for them. From now on, starting a new thread on this particular topic/story will result in that thread being deleted instantly, and I'll discuss with the other admins if we feel collectively if further action needs to be taken.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2024 19:05:00 GMT
You are obvious using word “pathetic” as a diversity tactic due to your lack of proof from which at the same time is not a demand but a request.Do you have rules and regulations regarding opening a new thread? Am I ok to request that or are you going to take offence by accusing me of demanding it? Now that’s pathetic…🤣😂🤣😂.This is getting very boring now Mr Administrator.🤣😂🤣😂
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Post by Andy K on Sept 4, 2024 19:10:07 GMT
You are obvious using word “pathetic” as a diversity tactic due to your lack of proof from which at the same time is not a demand but a request.Do you have rules and regulations regarding opening a new thread? Am I ok to request that or are you going to take offence by accusing me of demanding it? Now that’s pathetic…🤣😂🤣😂.This is getting very boring now Mr Administrator.🤣😂🤣😂 A diversity tactic? Oh good to see you are willing to embrace things from all backgrounds. I, and other admins have made our position clear on this. You can request. I've refused your request and given you the reasons why. Please pay the other members of this forum the courtesy of respecting that decision so that they don't have to read such tedium and can read things relevant to Sutton United.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2024 19:27:23 GMT
Then maybe you can reframe by accusing me of making a demand when I clearly made a request from which as an administrator you failed to notice.In future as an administrator,just concentrate on posts that need attention rather then something so inconsequential as regarding “New Threads”.
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Post by Andy K on Sept 4, 2024 19:31:55 GMT
Then maybe you can reframe by accusing me of making a demand when I clearly made a request from which as an administrator you failed to notice.In future as an administrator,just concentrate on posts that need attention rather then something so inconsequential as regarding “New Threads”. Admins do their job how they see fit. We need no help from you, thanks. Especially as your posts needed attention, as requested by other members. I'm sure there are other places you can go if you can't accept that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2024 19:45:35 GMT
Attention which wasn’t needed and couldn’t provide any evidence when requested? And now “Mr Administrator” is “Advising me to go else where??😂🤣.Being an ex “Sutton United” player and having regular contact with a board member…I’m quite happy watching passing comments on this chat room as well as assessing situations and positions😉
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2024 20:10:21 GMT
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Post by sufc1898 on Sept 4, 2024 20:18:09 GMT
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You are pathetic
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Post by davethegrave on Sept 4, 2024 20:29:49 GMT
You know this has been covered in 3 threads already. What's the point in making new ones?
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Post by boomboom on Sept 4, 2024 20:39:09 GMT
You know this has been covered in 3 threads already. What's the point in making new ones? TBF the article raises a new point that I don't think has been covered elsewhere relating to comments made by the father of someone who played against Blair saying that his daughter was intimidated by her. Having the said that the articles are starting to become somewhat repetitive. Incidentally the link didn't work for me but I found the article on Yahoo News. BTW, I wholeheartedly endorse Andy's stance re grouping posts together in the same thread rather than starting new ones.
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Post by kpinwp on Sept 4, 2024 21:38:06 GMT
“Pathetic” that you can’t prove it.Very Amateurish Administration. This is a quote from a Donald Trump speech, isn't it?
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Post by paz on Sept 4, 2024 22:06:48 GMT
I don't need to find a live case to prove that it's potentially possible to be arrested based on current-day British jurisdiction, you just need to research the laws on hate speech or what is deemed as "extremely offensive" and understand their subjective nature. Not only do I not "know its bollocks" but I will assert that my warning is very valid. One is particularly valuable if you have no money and someone wealthy takes offence to something you have said, or someone has the backing from well-financed think tanks. www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/homophobic-biphobic-and-transphobic-hate-crime-prosecution-guidanceYour dismissive comments might just come back to bite you. Yes you do need to find a case. Opposing something doesn't lead to a criminal sentence or even a charge. The link you shared undermines your original claim. So I repeat. Show me an example in this context. You know you can't. And therefore you're talking bollocks. JK Rowling, Graham Linehan and Sharon Davies have all "voiced their opinion" in stronger terms than you yet none have been arrested. If you honestly think we live in an authoritarian society, then the problem lies with you. Because you must feel that you are being oppressed because you're unable to attack others with a different sexual orientation or the like based on that characteristic alone without consequence. If that's really where you are, I want nothing further to do with you. Hog Wash. Speaking out against such things under the current UK jurisdiction can potentially put you at risk of arrest if your words are carless. And with the same laws applied in recent times there have been arrests for people making offensive jokes and so forth. I'm not sure why you have referenced the likes of JKR who is a multi millionaires and can afford a good lawyer, did you even read what I said? If the information in my link was not efficient for you, Then how about this? go ahead and tell me what legislation is in place which prevents cases of "grossly offensive" or "hateful speech" to not be determined by subjective interpretation? I hope you can clear that one up, good luck. As for your random attack on my character, I have to find that irony quite amusing. If you need to pretend to be morally superior than me, go for it. But I think delusions of grandeur are at play now. Yes I think our society is absolutely heading in the direction of being authoriteran, and I dont think this because I fear people like you stopping me from being evil, but its because I oppose the ideology of authoritarianism and find IT evil, in all political orientations, creeds and movements. Who would have thunk it!? Millions out there have the same concerns, but if we are all as psychotic as you have implied, and your are the saviour, then I think we should probably just all get very drunk and give up. Anyway, it all reminds me why I like to have a beer, go to footie and forget about the hassle. Which I shall now get back to.. over and out.
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Post by suttonpodcast on Sept 4, 2024 22:19:50 GMT
I did not ask for the other threads to have been closed, but had they not been then I would have. There is no point in having multiple threads for one subject.
Having read the latest article it also adds nothing, an unnamed father of an unnamed player who once played against Blair (in past 5 years) felt intimidated. May be valid feelings or may be made up rubbish (like the players refusing to play, Lucy's lack of management experience or only ever managing on a computer game, forcing a player to leave so we could sn Blair, Lucy's comment from a few years back re the Trans team she was managing etc etc)
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Post by os on Sept 4, 2024 23:04:35 GMT
This is a complex thread, I think there is more than one argument going on here, even venturing into the fabric of modern society itself.
But on the subject in hand, I have not been convinced that transgender participation in female sport / football is the right thing. That might be a minority view on this board, but judging by other platforms it is the majority view. Just because I hold that view, it doesn't make me a transphobe or anti LGBT and the same is true for the majority of people who also hold that view. The problem comes when all of a sudden I find myself to be a fascist anti gay right wing bigot who wants to burn the unclean at a stake. That type of classification is totally unfair and wrong, and I think this was the point that 'paz' was making in an earlier post with regards to authoritarian, and narratives.
My relative has transitioned to female, they work in a care home, and show their female caring side and all that goes with it, but she also has the strength of an ox and can lift patients in and out of bed with one arm. To me she is a women, but I really wouldn't want my daughter to be caught up in a sliding tackle with her.
You can shoot me now!
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