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Post by tombstone on Nov 27, 2010 22:50:30 GMT
Dont think anyone is begrudging you your win Aleman, in fact both sets of fans have been mostly complementary to each other.
The mark of a good side is also about winning with dignity.
No-one has an issue with Sutton players celebrating an incredible win, but why not celebrate with your own fans, rather than goading your opponents fans? Seems a little strange.
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Post by sdavison on Nov 27, 2010 22:52:33 GMT
It would be interesting to see whether or not there was any racist abuse because as what has already been said havn't seen the players react like that before! If there was any racial abuse we need to find the perpetrators and ban them from all grounds!
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Post by oms on Nov 27, 2010 22:53:03 GMT
An unbelievable one sided reaction from Wealdstone supporters and their chairman. As always, the players and management went to our home supporters and thanked them as they do win, lose or draw. The reason for the reaction of the players is that BWG heard racial comments from one of the Wealdstone supporters during the first half and the same supporter carried on after the final whistle. There were at least 8-10 Wealdstone fans spoiling for a fight and when Wayne was called a 'Fat, ginger c**t', understandably he got upset. Looking on from the stand, Millsy was then shoved out of the way and after saying it was uneccessary, was threatened by a Wealdstone fan who said "I'll come to your house and stab you!"
Our players always warm down after every game and yet it is only against Wealdstone that we have had any problems. Suprising that, isn't it!
Anyway, regardless of the above, what a fantastic game of football! Both sides doing their best to win and the game was played in a great spirit. This is what makes Non-League so special.
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Post by cordiceisagenius on Nov 27, 2010 23:02:29 GMT
Typical. Why let the facts get in the way eh lads? As I said before, perhaps we should let the photos of your players do the talking. Facts are, the majority of the Sutton players spent the best part of 5 minutes straight after the final whistle goading the Stones fans. Then, after celebrating with the Sutton support your players picked up where they left off and were then joined by your goalkeeping coach. And all this time your manager stood there with them laughing. Nice.
And as for the accusation of racist abuse, funny that. I wondered how long it would take for someone to try to find a reason to justify your players behaviour. Nearly 600 people in attendance today and nobody flagged the abuse to anyone? The Stones chairman in amongst the Wealdstone support all game and quite rightly points out there was no abuse of the opposition which is why the reaction of your players at the final whistle was such a shock.
If someone believes they heard something, then perhaps he should have reported it to our officials. In fact, point out the supporter when we meet later in the season. It's a very serious accusation, one I'm sure Wealdstone will not take lightly. I hope you've got your facts right. I know Wealdstone have.
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Post by sdavison on Nov 27, 2010 23:08:16 GMT
You can't hear everything that everyone says when the crowd is fairly large like that. The fact is it doesnt have to be said that loudly especially if the player is coming across to take a throw in or a corner....
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Post by oms on Nov 27, 2010 23:27:16 GMT
I've noticed you don't seem to see any wrong doing from any of your supporters. Do you honestly think that the manager apparently standing there laughing is worse than threathening to stab somebody for no apparent reason? As for there being a huge crowd and me not being able to hear exactly what was being said, it was said after the match when your supporters followed our players to the tunnel and I saw/heard it all. Im sure they would be happy to point out the supporter dishing out the abuse at our next meeting. We have to play to the very last whistle and we did just that and scored two goals, that's football for you.
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Post by os on Nov 27, 2010 23:32:12 GMT
This from the Stones chairman:
"Frankly I am fed up with them and there are 1-2 of our fans who we felt crossed the line of acceptability and who we will be speaking to."
And this on their forum:
Their no. 7 came off at half time complaining at abuse (a.k.a. banter) which seems to have been translated in the mind of the goal keeping coach (the fat sh*t in the orange bib) as racist. I have to say that I heard the "abuse" and it was in no way was racsit - merely factual in mentioning the overpaid and useless status of said Sutton player.
Gives the game away somewhat, I think!
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Post by Duke on Nov 28, 2010 1:53:10 GMT
Wealdstone fans ain't half talk sh*t!
End of the day, its night. but with regards to todays game we got away with murder i think. 3-1 down after the hour mark and i thought thats our unbeaten run at home was coming to an end. i forgot to remember that these chubs let two in against Carshalton after going three up at Coldsore!
As i always say three points is three points and you need to win games like this to get out of this league.
As with what happend after the final whistle:-
with regards to the "handbags" after the game i feel that this was instigated by a vocal minority of Wealdstone fans who no doubt had too much to drink, and to see there team let in two goals in injury time( I would if we let three goals in the second half!), i can understand they would be somewhat unhappy with there team. And the only way to rid them of this pain is to have a go at the opposition. But to have a go at poor little Wayne Shaw shows the level at which they play at. So i wouldn't worry about a bunch of middle-age piss heads, they don't represent Wealdstone FC, and we'll add that to Hastings and Lowesoft this season!
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Post by Duke on Nov 28, 2010 1:54:55 GMT
Just thought Wealdstone away is just after my birthday as well!
Happy days!
handbags at dawn!
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Post by salmonboy on Nov 28, 2010 9:14:15 GMT
I was there as a neutral yesterday as the game I was going to was postponed. It was my 6th visit to GGL this season, but I've never seen players and officials react in the disgraceful manner that the U's took part in after the final whistle.
I was situated about half way down the covered stand near the Stones fans and I didn't hear any racist abuse (or anything inflamatory) from them. The only thing they were having a pop at the U's players was chants about them being overpaid. Certainly not the level of abuse that the likes of some K's fans throw out for 90 minutes.
So, to see several U's players come over to the stone's fans at full time, offering them outside, dancing infront, goading them out and one even hugging the referee was atrocious. Speaking of the ref, he soon dissapeared leaving the players to continue to goad the fans. You would expect several bans for the players and coaches to be dished out (incitement and bringing the game into disrepute), but knowing the RL, nothing will be done.
I'm not surprised the Wealdstone fans reacted in the way that they did. Pissed off with their own team's incompetence to seal a victory (great game for the neutral by the way - some corking goals and decent atmosphere too), they were always going to be unhappy, but to be goaded on like that, I'm surprised a few didn't jump onto the pitch. Even the U's stewards were telling the Sutton players to go away and go back in. Full credit to them, and the lady from the shop, for trying to restore calm.
Funnily enough, the Sutton fans were fantastic and gracious in their victory. You would usually expect something like what I saw from the fans, but they celebrated a last minute winner the way it should be... ecstatically but with dignity. Something the U's team couldn't achieve.
Shame, as I enjoy my visits to GGL, but perhaps now I don't feel like cheering a team who acts like that.
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Post by Amber on Nov 28, 2010 11:28:05 GMT
Well I still can't work out how we managed that! At 2 nil down I remember thinking how we needed to nick one before half-time and luckily for us, Forbes duly obliged.
It could be said however that the turning point occurred two minutes before that when the lino took an age on deciding to give Dyer (I think) off-side when he seemed to have timed his run perfectly from deep, just as he did for the first goal of the afternoon. Perhaps he got confused by the other forward who was off-side in the build up. That would have been curtains.
Still, our boys dug deep and battled right to the end on a day when it was imperative for us to get all 3 points.
Quite what went on at the end was frankly ridiculous. You don't see that too often at GGL and I can't help thinking a small minority of the visiting supporters had a lot to do with our players' reaction at the final whistle. Surely that had to have been a little more than simply 'banter' because they don't react like that on a regular basis. I'm not condoning what the visiting officials described as winding up the away fans after you've just scored twice to win a game, but the players were warming down afterwards (as they always do) to the sight of grown men hanging over the fence, giving it plenty. Well done to the stewards for preventing anything more than the verbals and posturing on that score.
What then followed was far more unsavoury as the few remaining Stones made their way to the tunnel area, one of them pushing an official in the back and another threatening to 'find out where you live and cut you'. Totally unacceptable from the same men who had supported them team so well all afternoon.
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Post by taz on Nov 28, 2010 12:52:10 GMT
Got away with murder there! Thought we were looking at a comprehensive defeat at 3-1 down, but the OG gave us some hope. Then despite a fair bit of pressure, it looked like Stones had held on for their deserved 3 pts. Then 2 corners and bang, we've won the game.
Best side I've seen at GGL this season. Pacy, solid in midfield and well organised at the back. It's been a mystery why they've started so slowly this season, but they're certainly on the way back now. Their first & third goals were top drawer, the first especially. Great movement and great finish.
As for the cobblers at the end, it seems Brad gave a bit back after copping some abuse during the game. Now, I know a couple on here have said that the comment may have been racist but whilst the Stones support are a vociferous bunch, I'd find that very very hard to believe. They're just not that way inclined. In fact, they're the sort of fans that if anyone did make such comments, they'd be lucky to escape getting a slap from those around them.
However, if you've dished out some stick, then you've got to expect some back when it goes against you. There's too many people these days who think they can gob off at players and then start kicking off when that person gives a bit back after scoring\winning a game.
Personally, I'd rather our players didn't coat off the oppo fans after a game, but then again it's not as if it's something that happens every week is it?
Anyone work out what the claims about us being 'cheats' related to BTW? I thought the game was pretty even overall with little controversy. The only real incident of note was Davis being a bit fortunate to stay on after that silly challenge in front of the dugouts.
Overall, a big three points gained. No doubt the return up in Ruislip will be interesting!
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Post by fox on Nov 28, 2010 14:34:28 GMT
I was not there so can't say really but what was said and what was heard may have been two different things - a few years ago my Sunday team got heavily fined for abusing a ref.
I explained that one of my players had said 'Well that was a load of old sh*t then' but the ref had heard 'Harold Shipman'
Easily done. And both parties felt they were right.
We lost btw and I think it was because he did look like Harold Shipman....
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Post by DaveF on Nov 28, 2010 14:37:46 GMT
from the stand we all had a great view of the Davis challenge. He went in with studs showing, but definitely played the ball first and the contact with the Stones player was clearly well after that, just a case of momentum. Yellow card, no question, but not anything more. I was also talking to Karl early in the second half and he said that even at 2-0 down the feeling amongst the team was keep going and they could win.
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Post by Millsy on Nov 28, 2010 16:01:42 GMT
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