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Post by Stewart on Jul 15, 2012 11:27:14 GMT
Boat slips Sutton moorings to pursue trial options
By Stuart Amos
Sutton United boss Paul Doswell has told defender Michael Boateng he will leave space for him in his squad for the coming campaign. The former Bristol Rovers full back quit pre-season training at Surrey Sports Park this week to pursue trial opportunities with two League Two clubs and one from the Blue Square Premier. Boateng made 26 starts for United after switching to Gander Green Lane from the Pirates in December, but still harbours ambitions to return to the full-time ranks. And Doswell, who believes the club’s new playing and budget structure is designed to get young players their chance in the Football League, insisted the defender goes with his blessing. “Michael has got an opportunity and we have encouraged him to take it,” he said. “I’m keeping a space open for him if it doesn’t work out, but we have options if it does. “Because of the way we are set up now we are giving young players the chance to secure that dream move and that is what Sutton has always been about. “We have experienced players on good money and for the youngsters the reward is the chance to play on a stage where they can realistically further their careers. “We are using the same budget we have used for the last two seasons, we have just structured the spending of it differently.” Doswell has confirmed the capture of left-back Gareth Gwillim, midfielder Sam Rents, former Leyton Orient goalkeeper Tom Lovelock, centre back Jamie Stuart and forward Kezie Ibe this summer, with Gwillim, Lovelock and Ibe sealing their deals last week. United kick-off pre-season preparations against League One Leyton Orient on Wednesday night and the Sutton boss is expecting big things. “We have made five stellar signing this summer and it is obvious we have strengthened. Gareth was the best left-back in League Two last year,” he said. “We will field the strongest squad we can and Leyton Orient will have their full League One squad with them as it is their first game. “With all due respect to the likes of Chelsea and Tottenham’s development squads this summer, Orient will be a better for us.”
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Post by Del on Jul 16, 2012 16:57:04 GMT
You would think we could afford to increase our budget a little after our FA Cup gains.
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Post by frakey on Jul 16, 2012 18:07:51 GMT
Yeah, let's blow it all now. I think Dos knows what he's doing somehow. What has he got to prove after the past four seasons?
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Post by Andy K on Jul 16, 2012 18:53:04 GMT
You would think we could afford to increase our budget a little after our FA Cup gains. Please ask Bruce that question at the next Q&A
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Post by Juan on Jul 16, 2012 19:29:54 GMT
I don't think we need to increase our Budget at all !! Look at where we finished last year, that speaks for it self.From wat I'm lead to believe we are on a very similar budget to that of last year!!
I believe the clubs aim is to try and develop at youth and reserve level, bring younger players through via coaching and training, and develop them into rising future football league stars ( in the long term)
In relation to last years cup run, resulting in a good amount of winnings and sponsorship monies.Why would we go and blow some of it on players, when that is not part of our ethos or future plans!!
Yes it would be great to have the best of the best players out there!! But ''cough cough'' money won't win you the league, look just down the road!!
Anyway better get this thread back on track.....
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Post by os on Jul 16, 2012 19:46:57 GMT
The most important thing is sustainability, 2 season ago we were embarking on our 3rd season in the RP following 3 or 4 seasons of struggles in the CS. Yes we had a great season last term but the main aim has to make sure the club secures its future standing and at the moment that is in the CS. Dos and the club are doing just fine at the moment at doing that. The reality is we still have a lot of building to do if we are ever to see ourselves in the league above as anything more then the whipping boys.
We don't need a 1 season budget to put us somewhere we shouldn't be we need a long term one and that means getting more people through the gates. The FA Cup money can help in putting infrastructure in place to help that happen.
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Post by Juan on Jul 16, 2012 19:51:52 GMT
The most important thing is sustainability, 2 season ago we were embarking on our 3rd season in the RP following 3 or 4 seasons of struggles in the CS. Yes we had a great season last term but the main aim has to make sure the club secures its future standing and at the moment that is in the CS. Dos and the club are doing just fine at the moment at doing that. The reality is we still have a lot of building to do if we are ever to see ourselves in the league above as anything more then the whipping boys. We don't need a 1 season budget to put us somewhere we shouldn't be we need a long term one and that means getting more people through the gates. The FA Cup money can help in putting infrastructure in place to help that happen. Pretty much what I ment, you just put it together better !!
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Post by Del on Jul 16, 2012 21:19:06 GMT
Typical response.I said increase our budget a small amount.Say £10000. Not blow it all! I accept the arguments both ways but have always maintained you have to speculate to accumulate.You want to get more fans through the turnstiles then we need to compete. We could have the best ground in the CS but fans follow success.
Oh yes Andy i will ask Bruce that. If i remember rightly he ducked the question at the last meeting !
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Post by Andy K on Jul 16, 2012 21:30:33 GMT
Depends what you define by success?
We've got about an average 650 home gate. How much would that go up if we went into the Conf Premier. About 800? It wouldn't be a significant increase to the coffers to allow a significant increase in budget.
£10,000 equates to around £280 a week. That would get us probably one decent player, or 2 squad players. I'd say that may not have a significant impact.
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Post by Del on Jul 17, 2012 6:16:50 GMT
Yes Andy but thats all i'm suggesting.Not blow it all as mentioned earlier.One decent player or two squad players would help Dos immensely.
I define successs by constantly challenging for promotion.Dos won't stick around if we can't.
I wouldn't like to hazard a guess at what our Conference gate would be.Its just that most people in Sutton have never heard of the Conference south!We need to get the fans presently spending huge sums watching Premier league clubs occasionally
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Post by Juan on Jul 17, 2012 9:48:24 GMT
How do you suggest we get more people through the turnstyles Delboy? Im open to ideas and suggestions.
In the past , I believe Sutton High Strret has been canvassed, as well as local areas! Leaflet drops have also been carried out within local areas.
I for one would love to see more people down at the ground on Saturdays...but it becomes diffcult when you look at the cost of re-printing leaflets, etc etc-when some one has to pay for them!! I think other forms of advertising are stupidly expensive!!
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Post by Stewart on Jul 17, 2012 11:05:43 GMT
We’ve had this discussion before. Most of us were introduced by family and friends. I know that is true of me, my son and his mates.
Bring a mate to Sutton campaign would be the best way to promote the club.
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Post by os on Jul 17, 2012 11:19:03 GMT
Yes if everyone bought a mate the crwd would double, so there is a lot of onus on the supporters themselves. We are also trying to introduce the club to every kid in Sutton but inviting them in for things like fun days which iften result in moans on here but it is working.
Going for facility development will also help as it will bring people to the club for a different reason.
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Post by Del on Jul 17, 2012 17:42:30 GMT
Yes bringing a friend is a good idea.Thats how most of us ended up here in the first place.We have a good friendly club here. i believe on the whole we are ambitious.Introducing the club to every kid in Sutton is excellent as a lot don't even know we exist. When i first came down here we had regular crowds of 1500.I'm sure we lost a lot of support to Wimbledon who were very ambitious and right next door. It takes a long time to rebuild the fan base but kids follow successsful teams so we can't stand still. Not that many years ago Woking were playing in front of crowds of 300 and look at them now.It can be done,it has to be done. I would hazard a guess that our average gate will be higher next season.
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Post by os on Jul 17, 2012 18:18:37 GMT
I think the problem is if you increase budget, what do you increase too? Because once you go down that route as sides like Chelmsford and Dover have found there is no guarentee of sucess, and self imposed pressure mounts. To be sure of improving on last season I think the club would need to increase its spend by at least 50k maybe even a 100k and that would be suicide.
I think money as already been spent on setting up the full time training which may not directly mean more on players but does mean we have the opportunity of bringing ones who may not otherwise of come?
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