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Post by os on Mar 30, 2018 21:04:26 GMT
You have to say that, if a goal like that were to put say Manchester City clear at the top of the Premiership, and to leave another side in real danger of relegation, that the proverbial crap would hit the fan big time. If the Maidenhead pitch was unplayable, then so was the pitch at Woking? To my mind the correct decision was eventually made at Maidenhead although the match should never of started. The decision at Woking, should have been to abandon the match at 2-2 on that bounce, and disallow the goal, the match could then of been replayed fairly for both sides?
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Post by sallycat on Mar 30, 2018 21:11:41 GMT
Abandon the match with 30 seconds remaining? That would have been a bit silly.
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Post by os on Mar 30, 2018 21:15:08 GMT
Abandon the match with 30 seconds remaining? That would have been a bit silly. Its not illogical is it, the match was 2-2 and the pitch clearly contributed to a very important late winner. I am certain that if this was the premier league there would be huge pressure to replay the match from the losing side. Whether there is 30secs left or 1hr an unfit pitch is exactly that, unfit for purpose..
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Post by jr on Mar 30, 2018 21:21:57 GMT
Abandon the match with 30 seconds remaining? That would have been a bit silly. Its not illogical is it, the match was 2-2 and the pitch clearly contributed to a very important late winner. I am certain that if this was the premier league there would be huge pressure to replay the match from the losing side. Whether there is 30secs left or 1hr an unfit pitch is exactly that, unfit for purpose.. The no 4 for Woking just put his head in his hands and turned away. If he had watched what happened he had time to clear it and the match would have ended 2-2. I’m rather upset with him! I expect his teammates are too
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Post by garethl on Mar 30, 2018 21:24:49 GMT
Abandon the match with 30 seconds remaining? That would have been a bit silly. Its not illogical is it, the match was 2-2 and the pitch clearly contributed to a very important late winner. I am certain that if this was the premier league there would be huge pressure to replay the match from the losing side. Whether there is 30secs left or 1hr an unfit pitch is exactly that, unfit for purpose.. Seen some odd comments over the years on here. This is right up there. Macclesfield won, let’s get on with keeping the pressure on them as long as possible by also winning our next game. That is all we can do.
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Post by jr on Mar 30, 2018 21:27:53 GMT
Given how difficult the conditions were I thought we were outstanding today. Thomas could have had a hattrick today having hit the post and putting 2 headers wide. Their keeper pulled off an outstanding save from Walton although he scored from the resulting corner and Collins was oh so close with his free kick. Eastmond’s goal was brilliant as was Hyde’s for Maidenhead but the Jean (as they announced on BT) scored a screamer.
The right decision was made to abandon the game. If you get a chance to see Dulwich game then you would question what the ref for that game was thinking. The pitch resembled a pond. I think the refs wanted their appearance money and expenses!
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Post by Andy K on Mar 30, 2018 21:28:48 GMT
As the Woking game was on TV it was never going to be abandoned. That's the reality. Garethl is right. We just have to keep winning. Bottom line is really we are in no worse position league wise than at the start of the day.
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Post by sallycat on Mar 30, 2018 21:29:56 GMT
OS, you know as well as I do that there's no way you would be suggesting such a thing - no way it would have even crossed your mind - if the goal had happened at the other end. We're all biased by nature as football fans but you've always been one of the worst for that Its not illogical is it, the match was 2-2 and the pitch clearly contributed to a very important late winner. I am certain that if this was the premier league there would be huge pressure to replay the match from the losing side. Whether there is 30secs left or 1hr an unfit pitch is exactly that, unfit for purpose.. The no 4 for Woking just put his head in his hands and turned away. If he had watched what happened he had time to clear it and the match would have ended 2-2. I’m rather upset with him! I expect his teammates are too My Woking friend certainly is. I think that will haunt him for a while.
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Post by os on Mar 30, 2018 21:35:18 GMT
As the Woking game was on TV it was never going to be abandoned. That's the reality. Garethl is right. We just have to keep winning. Bottom line is really we are in no worse position league wise than at the start of the day. That is true, and we need to do our job. The point I make is that our match vs Boreham Wood a few years back was abandoned once a ball failed to roll, when that happens the pitch is unplayable, the fact a goal resulted in the 90th min doesn't suddenly make it less unplayable? There has also been a number of instances where matches have been replayed due to goals resulting from legal but unfair actions. Arsenal replayed a match vs Sheffield Wednesday when Arsenal scored from a throw in that should have gone back to the other side after they kicked it out. In answer to Sallycat, yes we/I are biased, but in truth had Woking had got that goal and the ref disallowed it, we would have said it was only fair and we wouldn't want to win like that?
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Post by Kebab Belly Bob on Mar 30, 2018 21:49:45 GMT
I watched a fair portion of that game on the train home and despite being disappointed with the last minute or seconds winner I have to say the Woking pitch played far better than the Maidenhead one. The only time it looked suspect was for the winner. Players were able to travel with the ball, put crosses in and generally pass the ball. Fair play to the Silkmen for sticking to the task and eeking out a win. I have to say that Woking look like a side lacking in any confidence, which may well have contributed to the lack of response when the ball went under the keeper. My glass hit three quarters empty after the match and by the celebrations between Macc players and supporters, their glasses will be overflowing. I think the realistic target is second place now, which in itself would be a massive achievement.
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Post by jamesmichaelcooper on Mar 31, 2018 7:38:05 GMT
Its not illogical is it, the match was 2-2 and the pitch clearly contributed to a very important late winner. I am certain that if this was the premier league there would be huge pressure to replay the match from the losing side. Whether there is 30secs left or 1hr an unfit pitch is exactly that, unfit for purpose.. The no 4 for Woking just put his head in his hands and turned away. If he had watched what happened he had time to clear it and the match would have ended 2-2. I’m rather upset with him! I expect his teammates are too to be fair, I think if Woking had cleared it from the puddle then I think Macclesfield's feeling of injustice would have been greater than everyone elses is now.
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Post by garethl on Mar 31, 2018 8:18:24 GMT
As the Woking game was on TV it was never going to be abandoned. That's the reality. Garethl is right. We just have to keep winning. Bottom line is really we are in no worse position league wise than at the start of the day. That is true, and we need to do our job. The point I make is that our match vs Boreham Wood a few years back was abandoned once a ball failed to roll, when that happens the pitch is unplayable, the fact a goal resulted in the 90th min doesn't suddenly make it less unplayable? There has also been a number of instances where matches have been replayed due to goals resulting from legal but unfair actions. Arsenal replayed a match vs Sheffield Wednesday when Arsenal scored from a throw in that should have gone back to the other side after they kicked it out. In answer to Sallycat, yes we/I are biased, but in truth had Woking had got that goal and the ref disallowed it, we would have said it was only fair and we wouldn't want to win like that? No there haven’t been many instances. And no we wouldn’t have been saying that if we had won in that manner. This is the equivalent of asking for games to be replayed due to a lucky deflection or a bad refereeing call. That is how ridiculous you sound! Let’s just get on with trying to beat Bromley shall we? I disagree with the comment about playing for 2nd place just yet. Things change very quickly and at the start of the day yesterday the expectation would have been that Macclesfield would win and they did. So little has changed. Macclesfield will still drop points but maybe not Monday!
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Post by mca on Mar 31, 2018 9:13:47 GMT
That is true, and we need to do our job. The point I make is that our match vs Boreham Wood a few years back was abandoned once a ball failed to roll, when that happens the pitch is unplayable, the fact a goal resulted in the 90th min doesn't suddenly make it less unplayable? There has also been a number of instances where matches have been replayed due to goals resulting from legal but unfair actions. Arsenal replayed a match vs Sheffield Wednesday when Arsenal scored from a throw in that should have gone back to the other side after they kicked it out. In answer to Sallycat, yes we/I are biased, but in truth had Woking had got that goal and the ref disallowed it, we would have said it was only fair and we wouldn't want to win like that? No there haven’t been many instances. And no we wouldn’t have been saying that if we had won in that manner. This is the equivalent of asking for games to be replayed due to a lucky deflection or a bad refereeing call. That is how ridiculous you sound! Let’s just get on with trying to beat Bromley shall we? I disagree with the comment about playing for 2nd place just yet. Things change very quickly and at the start of the day yesterday the expectation would have been that Macclesfield would win and they did. So little has changed. Macclesfield will still drop points but maybe not Monday! A combination of really bad luck and frustration decisions did for us yesterday. Can't complain about that Macc goal, can be naffed off about our game tho. If they had any doubts about the pitch the weather forecast should have contributed to the decision. I think we're entitled to feel a bit sorry for ourselves just for today but nothing to do except keep winning.
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Post by os on Mar 31, 2018 11:26:03 GMT
The no 4 for Woking just put his head in his hands and turned away. If he had watched what happened he had time to clear it and the match would have ended 2-2. I’m rather upset with him! I expect his teammates are too to be fair, I think if Woking had cleared it from the puddle then I think Macclesfield's feeling of injustice would have been greater than everyone elses is now. I think that is a fair point, but to my mind the match should not have reached that stage. I wonder how much influence the fact it was a live match had?
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Post by silkman72 on Mar 31, 2018 15:21:50 GMT
You have to say that, if a goal like that were to put say Manchester City clear at the top of the Premiership, and to leave another side in real danger of relegation, that the proverbial crap would hit the fan big time. If the Maidenhead pitch was unplayable, then so was the pitch at Woking? To my mind the correct decision was eventually made at Maidenhead although the match should never of started. The decision at Woking, should have been to abandon the match at 2-2 on that bounce, and disallow the goal, the match could then of been replayed fairly for both sides? Clutching at straws there pal
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