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Post by garethl on Oct 22, 2023 20:56:26 GMT
So you don’t know that is likely that the investors will be making the decision then?
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Post by Andy K on Oct 22, 2023 21:00:02 GMT
So you don’t know that is likely that the investors will be making the decision then? One would hope any decisions on this scale would be made by the board as a collective. Knowing our chair and vice chair I can't see it being anything else, although I kind of get what os is saying in terms of keeping the investors happy will have some influence, although I doubt very much it will be they making the decisions.
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Post by garethl on Oct 22, 2023 21:02:46 GMT
Knowing our board I’d say investors were subject to very thorough conversations setting out the nature of their involvement. What that is is unknown to me. But people guessing and putting it out in the public domain doesn’t sit right.
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Post by beechesk on Oct 22, 2023 21:21:30 GMT
I believe this thread is becoming quite unpleasant, dominated by a few people who are expressing very negative views. Yes the team is going through a difficult transition but it is up to us genuine long standing supporters to support the team and the manager in every way we can. Too much negativity will not help.
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Post by kpinwp on Oct 22, 2023 22:26:37 GMT
I believe this thread is becoming quite unpleasant, dominated by a few people who are expressing very negative views. Yes the team is going through a difficult transition but it is up to us genuine long standing supporters to support the team and the manager in every way we can. Too much negativity will not help. Unpleasant it may be. But stonewalling, at this difficult juncture, would be far worse. As to 'genuine long standing supporters' personally I started watching Sutton Utd. in 1971. So 'long standing'. As to 'genuine', I don't think any of us get to to make that decision about any others based on their personal opinions. True, too much negativity will not help. Neither will wishful thinking or blind faith.
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Post by os on Oct 22, 2023 22:34:29 GMT
So you don’t know that is likely that the investors will be making the decision then? One would hope any decisions on this scale would be made by the board as a collective. Knowing our chair and vice chair I can't see it being anything else, although I kind of get what os is saying in terms of keeping the investors happy will have some influence, although I doubt very much it will be they making the decisions. I don't disagree with what you have said, and yes I think you know the point I am making. Three main investors are also board members so would be part of any board wide decision. I don't know what they are thinking or if they all agree with eachother, I only make the point that their thinking will be key to what happens. Yes some people are getting to worked up on this thread. BTW I think its 15yrs to the day tomorrow Sutton last sacked a manager, and that was a very rare event indeed, mind you the replacement wasn't bad And at 13/2 I think I will have a few quid on us beaten Wrexham.
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Post by Andy K on Oct 22, 2023 22:50:37 GMT
One would hope any decisions on this scale would be made by the board as a collective. Knowing our chair and vice chair I can't see it being anything else, although I kind of get what os is saying in terms of keeping the investors happy will have some influence, although I doubt very much it will be they making the decisions. I don't disagree with what you have said, and yes I think you know the point I am making. Three main investors are also board members so would be part of any board wide decision. I don't know what they are thinking or if they all agree with eachother, I only make the point that their thinking will be key to what happens. Yes some people are getting to worked up on this thread. BTW I think its 15yrs to the day tomorrow Sutton last sacked a manager, and that was a very rare event indeed, mind you the replacement wasn't bad And at 13/2 I think I will have a few quid on us beaten Wrexham. The replacement was Ernie Howe. Are you quite sure about him being "not bad"?
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Post by os on Oct 22, 2023 22:55:30 GMT
I don't disagree with what you have said, and yes I think you know the point I am making. Three main investors are also board members so would be part of any board wide decision. I don't know what they are thinking or if they all agree with eachother, I only make the point that their thinking will be key to what happens. Yes some people are getting to worked up on this thread. BTW I think its 15yrs to the day tomorrow Sutton last sacked a manager, and that was a very rare event indeed, mind you the replacement wasn't bad And at 13/2 I think I will have a few quid on us beaten Wrexham. The replacement was Ernie Howe. Are you quite sure about him being "not bad"? The memory goes with age A bloody good job now I think back to that season...
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Post by kpinwp on Oct 22, 2023 23:05:33 GMT
The replacement was Ernie Howe. Are you quite sure about him being "not bad"? The memory goes with age A bloody good job now I think back to that season... I was working a lot of night shifts that season. Initially it wasn't too much of a hinderance to attending matches. After a while it seemed to become one...
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Post by markf on Oct 23, 2023 6:08:06 GMT
Interesting that a match thread can extend to double its usual ap length when things aren't going well. Perhaps a fine example of the human psyche in that some only post or at least like to labour their opinions more during times of strife.
Also interesting that most of the agitators (for want of a better description), hide behind meaningless usernames thus making themselves almost anonymous in the process.
There also appear to be some statements that don't stand up, particularly about the club's finances. Are we stable? Perhaps, comparatively to other L2 clubs, but in terms of SUFC fiscal history,I would suggest based on the outlay on the new pitch, ground improvements etc, stable might be pushing it rather.
A change of manager would indeed incur costs that would add considerably to the burden. Therefore, it's a gamble. Others have harked back to the 07/08 season for obvious reasons. The managerial change made no impression on the club's fortunes back then.
As a long standing fan, I would rather those in charge don't jeopardise the club's long term future for a quick fix that may not actually end up being one.
We need some cool heads at the moment and from what I have read on this thread they're are very few to be found on here at present.
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Post by dundas on Oct 23, 2023 9:12:33 GMT
But there would be candidates worth looking at, and it would freshen things up in multiple ways. Whom are these candidates? I’m intrigued.. Matt White
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Post by paz on Oct 23, 2023 9:13:14 GMT
Interesting that a match thread can extend to double its usual ap length when things aren't going well. Perhaps a fine example of the human psyche in that some only post or at least like to labour their opinions more during times of strife. Also interesting that most of the agitators (for want of a better description), hide behind meaningless usernames thus making themselves almost anonymous in the process. There also appear to be some statements that don't stand up, particularly about the club's finances. Are we stable? Perhaps, comparatively to other L2 clubs, but in terms of SUFC fiscal history,I would suggest based on the outlay on the new pitch, ground improvements etc, stable might be pushing it rather. A change of manager would indeed incur costs that would add considerably to the burden. Therefore, it's a gamble. Others have harked back to the 07/08 season for obvious reasons. The managerial change made no impression on the club's fortunes back then. As a long standing fan, I would rather those in charge don't jeopardise the club's long term future for a quick fix that may not actually end up being one. We need some cool heads at the moment and from what I have read on this thread they're are very few to be found on here at present. Well said. While I do think that it's likely a change in management ,or at least an adjustment is needed, the cost could do more damage then good. We need to consider how the club can survive and also what's best should we get relegation. As much as I feel relegation is on the cards there is also making sure we don't land in the Nat league with broken legs. Have to remember that this is not an easy job and I doubt there is someone who will stroll in with a magic wand. That said, if the dressing room falls apart which could happen soon, then I think a getting an unknown hungry coach in could be the punt we will need to take. And hopefully by then we are not too adrift. From that point it will be a toss of a coin. While I can't say I'm filled with confidence, the team has been changing and at times looking competitive. It seems silly errors are the biggest issue, which may be due to pressure.
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Post by Andy K on Oct 23, 2023 9:35:10 GMT
Whom are these candidates? I’m intrigued.. Matt WhiteWho?
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Post by localboy86 on Oct 23, 2023 9:55:33 GMT
I’m guessing they mean Marc White.. which isn’t going to happen as he doesn’t possess the coaching qualifications to enable him to coach in the EFL.
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Post by halftimet on Oct 23, 2023 10:09:07 GMT
Whom are these candidates? I’m intrigued.. Matt WhiteI prefer to paper over the cracks. So Anna Glypta for me.
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